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jodragon40

jodragon40

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Mug Fan said:
Game speed, fatigue and sustainability.

In 2023 the year before Vegas, round one scoring.
Total points 282 average per game 35, average margin 8.75.
This year round one 404 points average per game 50 average margin 20.
It's continuing in round 2 so far average above 50.

The Dragons who fans say are slow and have no attack still scored 20 points against the Storm, that would of been enough to win every game in round 1 in 2023.

I'm not sure about the sustainability of players and where the game is heading at this rate.
Last year we had record numbers of injuries and even this year thru pre season it was high.
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Ah Mug Fan Mug Fan great to see a man that loves his stat's. I was getting lonely 😆

But in all seriousness I did mention that there was some beautiful attacking structures that led to tries yesterday with players in motion confusing the defence, something I hadn't seen in very many years. Atkinson on two occasions at least threw beautiful passes for tries.

Nobody is talking about our 3 unanswered tries in the 1st half and had we not let that bloody Grant sneak over on the last play of the 1st half we would have been in front at oranges.

But your right the game is continuing to get faster each year , I get fatigued watching.
 
TheRev

TheRev

SGI NSW Cup
The thing that noone has mentioned about the proposed kick-off rule change.. is that by the try-scorers kicking off; we should limit what is happening now where teams are putting on 18 straight points with the other team not seeing the ball.. the idea is that the game stays closer the entire 80mins...

They talk about the 2025 grand final comeback not being possible if the rule changes... but ideally we dont see those big leads in the first place... not every weekend anyway...
 
J

Justadragon

SGI NSW Cup
Mug Fan said:
Game speed, fatigue and sustainability.

In 2023 the year before Vegas, round one scoring.
Total points 282 average per game 35, average margin 8.75.
This year round one 404 points average per game 50 average margin 20.
It's continuing in round 2 so far average above 50.

The Dragons who fans say are slow and have no attack still scored 20 points against the Storm, that would of been enough to win every game in round 1 in 2023.

I'm not sure about the sustainability of players and where the game is heading at this rate.
Last year we had record numbers of injuries and even this year thru pre season it was high.
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Unfortunately we have to fight like hell to score 20 and the Storm's players score 46 quite easily. So is it a NRL problem or a Dragons problem. I would say we dont have the right players, that is quite obvious.
 
Morgan

Morgan

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Mailroomsgi said:
Criminal what PVL is doing, constant rule changes and negotiating a shocking TV deal that is dwarfed by the AFL

I genuinely think going back to the mid 2010 rules would be better for the league, more parity. Closer games and less blowouts

The idiot in charge thinks more points = more entertainment
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How quickly 6 again calls are given is the most annoying thing. It seems arbitrary most of the time.
 
Frank Facer

Frank Facer

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Mailroomsgi said:
Criminal what PVL is doing, constant rule changes and negotiating a shocking TV deal that is dwarfed by the AFL

I genuinely think going back to the mid 2010 rules would be better for the league, more parity. Closer games and less blowouts

The idiot in charge thinks more points = more entertainment
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I agree 100%. I think the 6 again rule is the worst rule change ever. It has changed the game for the worse. I would go back to before the 7 tackle set was introduced. The game was better before that rule change.
 
Dave03

Dave03

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I'd recommend listening to Jackson Ford interview on SEN. He said some alarming things about dragons coaching while with us. It wasn't intentional but I hope things have changed. Shows a bit of insight into Andrew Webster too. This is what we're competing against.
 
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redv13

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Dave03 said:
I'd recommend listening to Jackson Ford interview on SEN. He said some alarming things about dragons coaching while with us. It wasn't intentional but I hope things have changed. Shows a bit of insight into Andrew Webster too. This is what we're competing against.
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Well we can thank Mc Peanut for that. Ford, Host, Robson are a few that weren’t rated at all by him and let go
 
Dave03

Dave03

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redv13 said:
Well we can thank Mc Peanut for that. Ford, Host, Robson are a few that weren’t rated at all by him and let go
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DRAGONS TOLD JACKSON FORD HE WASN’T A FIRST GRADER IN 2019.

Ford reveals how Webster pub meeting saved his NRL career

By Sam Kosack
SEN League

Jackson Ford has revealed how he considered walking away from rugby league in 2022 and how a meeting with Andrew Webster convinced him to keep his dream alive.

An incredible breakout start to the 2026 season sees Jackson Ford sitting atop the Dally M leaderboard, collecting 17 out of a possible 18 points to start the year.

Ford, a Gerringong Lions junior, debuted for the Dragons back in 2019, but was told by the club he wasn’t a first grader, thus looking for other options.
But the prop almost didn’t make it to New Zealand, revealing to SEN how he almost quit the game to become a carpenter, before a pub meeting with Webster encouraged him to go all in with the Warriors.

“There wasn't much on the table, to be honest,” Ford told SEN 1170 The Run Home.

“I think there was like a couple bottom dollar (offers), Parra (Eels) and Canberra were the only sort of other two options.

“But then… my manager sort of said, ‘the Warriors are keen’, and… at the time, I was thinking, ‘Jesus, I don't know about that’. You know what I mean?

“I wasn't gonna be getting too much money either. I'm a carpenter as well, so I was sort of half even considering that, giving it up and starting because I never really had much confidence leaving from that Dragons period.

“I was always sort of getting told that I'm not a first grader and stuff, so I was weighing up my options. I went to the pub, met him (Webster), (and) as soon as I sort of had a chat to him, I thought, ‘let's just have a shot and we'll head over there and go all in’.”

Cut to present day, and Ford is the form front rower of the competition, averaging 200m and 30 tackles a game, becoming a leader in a Warriors’ pack already full of talent.

Stepping up in the absence of Mitch Barnett, Ford is now an integral part of a pack already including international forwards James Fisher-Harris, Mitch Barnett, and Erin Clark, playing an average of 75 minutes.

Ford credits much of his breakout start to coach Andrew Webster, who was a guiding mentor in identifying Ford’s flaws and helping him work on them.
“(Webster) just told me stuff that I didn't even know about myself,” Ford said.

“I was in the Dragons system for a long time, and he was telling me stuff that I hadn't even heard from them boys.

“Like, you got a left arm carry, I see you doing this, and I think we can fix this up. This is what we need to fix you up with some little things.

“It just sort of opened my (eyes). I was like ‘that sounds exactly like he knows what he's talking about.’”

Ford’s Warriors take on the Wests Tigers in Round 4 in New Zealand.

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I hope we've improved with all these attention to detail things. I might be wrong but I think Flanno said something like he was impressed by Fale & Tu attention to detail in preseason but these are things taught at top 4 clubs.
 
P

puff

SGI Jersey Flegg
Dave03 said:
DRAGONS TOLD JACKSON FORD HE WASN’T A FIRST GRADER IN 2019.

Ford reveals how Webster pub meeting saved his NRL career

By Sam Kosack
SEN League

Jackson Ford has revealed how he considered walking away from rugby league in 2022 and how a meeting with Andrew Webster convinced him to keep his dream alive.

An incredible breakout start to the 2026 season sees Jackson Ford sitting atop the Dally M leaderboard, collecting 17 out of a possible 18 points to start the year.

Ford, a Gerringong Lions junior, debuted for the Dragons back in 2019, but was told by the club he wasn’t a first grader, thus looking for other options.
But the prop almost didn’t make it to New Zealand, revealing to SEN how he almost quit the game to become a carpenter, before a pub meeting with Webster encouraged him to go all in with the Warriors.

“There wasn't much on the table, to be honest,” Ford told SEN 1170 The Run Home.

“I think there was like a couple bottom dollar (offers), Parra (Eels) and Canberra were the only sort of other two options.

“But then… my manager sort of said, ‘the Warriors are keen’, and… at the time, I was thinking, ‘Jesus, I don't know about that’. You know what I mean?

“I wasn't gonna be getting too much money either. I'm a carpenter as well, so I was sort of half even considering that, giving it up and starting because I never really had much confidence leaving from that Dragons period.

“I was always sort of getting told that I'm not a first grader and stuff, so I was weighing up my options. I went to the pub, met him (Webster), (and) as soon as I sort of had a chat to him, I thought, ‘let's just have a shot and we'll head over there and go all in’.”

Cut to present day, and Ford is the form front rower of the competition, averaging 200m and 30 tackles a game, becoming a leader in a Warriors’ pack already full of talent.

Stepping up in the absence of Mitch Barnett, Ford is now an integral part of a pack already including international forwards James Fisher-Harris, Mitch Barnett, and Erin Clark, playing an average of 75 minutes.

Ford credits much of his breakout start to coach Andrew Webster, who was a guiding mentor in identifying Ford’s flaws and helping him work on them.
“(Webster) just told me stuff that I didn't even know about myself,” Ford said.

“I was in the Dragons system for a long time, and he was telling me stuff that I hadn't even heard from them boys.

“Like, you got a left arm carry, I see you doing this, and I think we can fix this up. This is what we need to fix you up with some little things.

“It just sort of opened my (eyes). I was like ‘that sounds exactly like he knows what he's talking about.’”

Ford’s Warriors take on the Wests Tigers in Round 4 in New Zealand.

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I hope we've improved with all these attention to detail things. I might be wrong but I think Flanno said something like he was impressed by Fale & Tu attention to detail in preseason but these are things taught at top 4 clubs.
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Yes. It's called coaching. Hoping to sign Haas and Cleary is not coaching.
 
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