dragonheart
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Sua came on and wasn't even there, he may have checked out.
Round 14 v Sharks Sunday
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Dave03
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Kerr should never ever play for the dragons again. His laziness & selfishness in the non tackle attempt of the nikora try was disgusting. Hang your head in shame. Put himself over the team. Zero effort. Pathetic.
Dave03
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Sua is not an edge player anymore. Too slow, poor defensive reads and laziness. Play him in the middle if he returns from pec injury or not at all. Stewart and Egan have to play on the edge because they've got mobility, have excellent 1v1 tackles and great defensive iq.
Dave03
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I reckon a few dragons senior players would've been smiling and laughing post game while the younger ones are hurting. Clear divide between those who care and those who don't. Young should never be a head coach. His interchange use is soo poor. Tactically inept too. I hope this stops all the nonsense talk about him being the dragons head coach. Have a proper f*cking search for candidates.
Dave03
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Sharks were poor in the first half but we showed very little in attack. It was the desperate defence of our young middle that kept the game close. Dean Young has been and is the defensive coach. We had 30+ put on us again. He cannot coach, it's okay to say he can't. His results speak for themselves.
blacksafake
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I’d say it was a case of the broncos losing
blacksafake
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His record as a defensive coach shows that he’s not capable of fixing things.
blacksafake
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Will just delay their decision a little longer
jodragon40
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Well that was an ideal example of a game of two halves.
The Sharks were awful in the 1st half but we just didn't take advantage of that and punish them on the scoreboard . 6 points ahead at oranges was never going to be enough.
First half we had 85% completion rate v Sharks 65%. Errors favoured us as did time in possession but as we all know the law of averages evens up that particular stat every game.
Firstly my positives from the game.
I'll tell you now we simply cannot allow LPT to go anywhere that kid is to my eye developing very well. 17 tackles non missed by a prop in half a game of football is outstanding.
Against a current SOO prop AFB
The 1st half stats showed, in attack AFB 6 runs 74m 32m post contact LPT 9 runs 60m 18m post contact not bad for his 4th run on game.
Special mentions also to Stewart and Egan. That tackle by Egan on Stonestreet was a tackle from a bygone era, beautiful tackling technique.
In today's high speed game 90% of the time when a winger reaches top speed he breaks that tackle, so well done.
Atkinson kicking game, especially in the 1st half was very effective but when in possession we really failed to create anything in attack.
Then the interchanges and I cannot for the life of me understand why Lawrie and Kerr are on the bench. When they came on Stewart was moved from the edge to the middle to accommodate them and the game changed.
2nd half was a disaster, as I mentioned earlier, in today's game you have to punish the errors of your opponents. 3 unforced errors by us in the first 10 minutes were punished.
Firstly TU trying to offload when he should have taken the tackle, a try. Secondly Kerr play the ball error, a try. Thirdly Suli misses a one on one tackle off a scrum, another try 3 errors 3 tries. The game is as good as over.
The Sharks back 5 ended up running for 864m v our back 5 699m, we were well ahead at the end of the 1st half.
Another missed one on one tackle by Atkinson saw Trindall score and put the icing on a 28 zip 2nd half comeback.
I say that the bench selected at least 3 shouldn't be playing 1sts. You can't rely on the Couchmans to serve up the numbers they did against the Broncos every week, they need help, their bodies simply aren't up to those kinds of numbers week in week out.
That applies to the whole of our young pack. It takes time to develop especially physically in the forwards consistency week in week out at 1st grade level, today only Toby Couchman managed 100m +, whereas the Sharks pack after a very slow start, 5 of their forwards managed those figures.
From a coaching perspective I wasn't impressed with our game plan that certainly lacked creativity in attack.
In my personal view the interim coach is not the answer to our coaching ills.
We couldn't take advantage of last week's surprise win against the reigning premiers. We certainly returned to earth with a big thud in the 2nd half.
A very dissapointing effort, we now have a bye, then Newcastle.
The Sharks were awful in the 1st half but we just didn't take advantage of that and punish them on the scoreboard . 6 points ahead at oranges was never going to be enough.
First half we had 85% completion rate v Sharks 65%. Errors favoured us as did time in possession but as we all know the law of averages evens up that particular stat every game.
Firstly my positives from the game.
I'll tell you now we simply cannot allow LPT to go anywhere that kid is to my eye developing very well. 17 tackles non missed by a prop in half a game of football is outstanding.
Against a current SOO prop AFB
The 1st half stats showed, in attack AFB 6 runs 74m 32m post contact LPT 9 runs 60m 18m post contact not bad for his 4th run on game.
Special mentions also to Stewart and Egan. That tackle by Egan on Stonestreet was a tackle from a bygone era, beautiful tackling technique.
In today's high speed game 90% of the time when a winger reaches top speed he breaks that tackle, so well done.
Atkinson kicking game, especially in the 1st half was very effective but when in possession we really failed to create anything in attack.
Then the interchanges and I cannot for the life of me understand why Lawrie and Kerr are on the bench. When they came on Stewart was moved from the edge to the middle to accommodate them and the game changed.
2nd half was a disaster, as I mentioned earlier, in today's game you have to punish the errors of your opponents. 3 unforced errors by us in the first 10 minutes were punished.
Firstly TU trying to offload when he should have taken the tackle, a try. Secondly Kerr play the ball error, a try. Thirdly Suli misses a one on one tackle off a scrum, another try 3 errors 3 tries. The game is as good as over.
The Sharks back 5 ended up running for 864m v our back 5 699m, we were well ahead at the end of the 1st half.
Another missed one on one tackle by Atkinson saw Trindall score and put the icing on a 28 zip 2nd half comeback.
I say that the bench selected at least 3 shouldn't be playing 1sts. You can't rely on the Couchmans to serve up the numbers they did against the Broncos every week, they need help, their bodies simply aren't up to those kinds of numbers week in week out.
That applies to the whole of our young pack. It takes time to develop especially physically in the forwards consistency week in week out at 1st grade level, today only Toby Couchman managed 100m +, whereas the Sharks pack after a very slow start, 5 of their forwards managed those figures.
From a coaching perspective I wasn't impressed with our game plan that certainly lacked creativity in attack.
In my personal view the interim coach is not the answer to our coaching ills.
We couldn't take advantage of last week's surprise win against the reigning premiers. We certainly returned to earth with a big thud in the 2nd half.
A very dissapointing effort, we now have a bye, then Newcastle.
I don't think those two errors were part of the gameplan.
Not all errors are equal. This one was very poorly timed.
Justadragon
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Well he;s got one now, in a big way
Justadragon
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If he has torn a pec it's season over mate. He may as well go and check out his new locker.
Dragon David
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Yep. Not the player that Flanno was so anxious to get to the club. To me he is a fizzer not a banger.
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Dragon David
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I've never been a big fan of Su'a. Bennett was happy to not to re-sign him at Souths and let him come to the Dragons in 2022 and he was an average back rower for us. The Club really did not kick up a fuss about him signing with the Eels. Saves them telling him he isn't needed in the years ahead when we will be dynamic.
Justadragon
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Agree Dave, when he's good he's awesome, but few and far between. Mind you when he's bad, he's bad. So yeah time to go we have more than enough back rowers to fill that void.I've never been a big fan of Su'a. Bennett was happy to not to re-sign him at Souths and let him come to the Dragons in 2022 and he was an average back rower for us. The Club really did not kick up a fuss about him signing with the Eels. Saves them telling him he isn't needed in the years ahead when we will be dynamic.
Justadragon
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I'd put Webster into that lot as well
Agree, just wasn’t sure if we had the room spots wise in the 30 to fit Hutchinson, Webster and possibly Connor M when he’s back. Webster is going well and deserves an upgrade so he can debut this season
kogarahwarrior
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Young has NFI