jodragon40
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And that is the difference between a specialist winger and matter of inches
Round 5 v Eels - 3pm
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RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
Nah. I changed that to few w'd have gotten that on the whitewash after watching replay. It was not awarded because his leg went on the touch line a fraction of a second before placing it . That was the centimetre I referred to. And as I added even ref Sutton called it a try at first then renigged.
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jodragon40
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As I said the difference between having a specialist winger who knows where the chalk is and how to stay above it
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
Ilias copping it again in the media. That kick out on the full was really bad but apart from that, he was ok. His kicking was ok and defence was ok. Attack was a bit of a rabble and he has to take some of the blame for that.
Edward
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It is a bit unfair. He makes mistakes which Flanno rarely does but Flanno could take on (a lot) more playmaking responsibility and then see how many mistakes he makes.
He had a very bad defensive read which cost us a try. I don't see how much upside he has tbh but we don't have a standout half in reserves either. Glover is more of a running player. Reed is very young. LKT doesn't have a long kicking game either.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
Doesn't LKT do most of the kicking in reserve grade? Because Glovers long kicking seems pretty bad. LKTs short kicking and defence is very good.
No, it's Glover. LKT hardly kicks. A bit like 1st grade with Kyle & Illias.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
That's a shame. Though I know he does a lot of short kicking. I know because I've been very impressed by it.
Glover does almost all the kicking and he's been outstanding this season, primarily his running game. If anyone's fighting to pinch a half spot at the moment its Glover over LKT by a country mile.
I still think the current combo will get another couple weeks minimum, but we'll see how it plays out tomorrow.
I still think the current combo will get another couple weeks minimum, but we'll see how it plays out tomorrow.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
That's because you only care about Kyle's place in the team.
I rate Glover as well as LKT but Glover's defence needs a lot of work before he can play first grade. LKT's defence is good enough now.
Mate don't twist your absurd bias against him into me defending his place, I didnt say a word about Kyle or what positions they'd play. I'm saying out of the two of them on form Glover is ahead of him by a mile and its not even close, if you think otherwise you haven't been watching the games.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
Didn't we agree to look at his LBAs and TAs after the first several rounds? I have nothing against him. For the 50th time. Just steaming over the very obvious fact he is in the team only because his dad is the coach.
I watched. Glover has been better, LKT has been good. But Glover struggles in defence badly in reserve grade.
Morgan
SGI NSW Cup
I know he isn't popular around here and there is no love lost between me and Ben Hunt but maybe he was onto something when he called for Gutho to be 5/8. Moving Gutho closer to the action might be just what the team needs. The spine definitely needs a shake up. Then Flanno could move Kyle to halfback if he doesn't want to drop him, and we all know he doesn't. Though I'm not sure what Gutho's kicking game is like. Unless it's pretty good, I don't see how Ilias can be dropped.
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Nothing against him but youve been complaining for 12months about him regardless of how we play, righto. We didn't agree on anything because your incapable of any objective discussion, you've since decided to focus on TAs in a few comments as ammo even though (and its been discussed many times) our entire attacking structure is going through Gutho instead which is why he has 90% of the assists. Thats clearly the coaches game plan and we arent struggling to score points. I'm not bothering arguing about the dad comment again, since I last logged in you've made like 5 or 6 comments whinging about that trying to get an argument going and there's good reason no one replies its just negative, repetitive rubbish. The only thing I haven't figured out yet whether it's hate of Kyle or your LKTs manager but either way it's pathetic.
My comment is about the reserve halves discussion and that's all so dont twist my words. On form my opinion is Glover is miles ahead of LKT currently and if your going to change something (which I dont believe he will for a while anyway) I'd be injecting the live wire running playmaker thats been killing it, rather then replacing a like for like defensive based tackler that'll be doing the exact same role passing 1 out to Gutho/Holmes. I don't care if he plays 6 or 7 or with who but I think if your changing the halves, which is a big call, you want to inject something your missing, and yes his defence might be his let down but can be worked on.
TheRev
SGI NSW Cup
The problem with Gutho to 6, is no more Gutho @1.. and hes doing an awful lot back there.. and tbh were scoring the points.. were converting rly well, the assumption that something is wrong with our attack I think is misguided.
The problems we have are things like a long kicking game, forward pack battle, defensive line speed, and most importantly errors/penalties.. we sabotage ourselves which makes the rest of that far more difficult. We could so easily be 3from4 right now.. and we would be showered with praise.. but those losses hurt so bad.. for a struggling side... it almost takes you out of Top8 contention just on those 4 points lost on the ladder... and were only at Round 6.
The problems we have are things like a long kicking game, forward pack battle, defensive line speed, and most importantly errors/penalties.. we sabotage ourselves which makes the rest of that far more difficult. We could so easily be 3from4 right now.. and we would be showered with praise.. but those losses hurt so bad.. for a struggling side... it almost takes you out of Top8 contention just on those 4 points lost on the ladder... and were only at Round 6.
I actually thought he mightve been going that way when we signed him but he seems pretty firm with the system he's put in place and hes doing so much work it would be a full restructure, so I don't think he'll move Gutho. And to be honest if we can fix whatever this rubbish mentality is of defending leads for no reason and making errors that put us under heaps of pressure I think we'll be fine we just need to find some consistency as a team. Hoping this week won't give me Rabbitoh flashbacks again 50min into the game.
Morgan
SGI NSW Cup
It's a problem. No doubt about that but is there any alternative at present? There is also the possibility of Allen playing fullback. A bit better defensively than Sloan.
TheRev
SGI NSW Cup
They wouldnt do that.. Allan is being focussed as a centre replacement for 2025 (before he retires).. because we are in strife if we lose 1... Feagai maybe the other.. not sure if theyre lost faith in Lawson, but to move him back to the wing last week I found really surprising... they even moved Buchanan to the wing, which I found equally surprising.. which makes me think they really want to focus on Allan and Feagai as first grade ready ctr depth for 2025.
If Gutho was to be injured.. I assume its Sloan, dont think they would put Ramsey in (not 100% sure if hes on a T&T or not).. could also Slide Val back, but then we have the centre problem again. I am very curious to see the team sheet tomorrow and see if SFinau is replacing one of those wingers.
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