Recruitment & Retention 2027

RufusRex

SGI NSW Cup
i do too ... JAC has 2 grand final wins with the storm .. i recognise that ... But hasnt played a final ni the last 5 seasons, is a cultural virus to a club and exactly not the kind of player we need given the strides we have taken assembling a group of quality humans.

Sloan would be better than JAC within the context of our club/team/culture.
 

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
i do too ... JAC has 2 grand final wins with the storm .. i recognise that ... But hasnt played a final ni the last 5 seasons, is a cultural virus to a club and exactly not the kind of player we need given the strides we have taken assembling a group of quality humans.

Sloan would be better than JAC within the context of our club/team/culture.
He's a very stupid person. What are you going to do? We all know he is far from the only one who does it. He's just stupid enough to get caught. With weekly tests, even in the off season, Dragons could use him for 2. I wouldn't sign a 31 year-old winger for 3 years.
 

RufusRex

SGI NSW Cup
if you bring on someone you know is a risk and establish controls around that you are making a cultural statement. It is not the right one either. He is fast 100% but an absolute cancer to culture/professionalism and the potential impact to the youth coming through the club.

He scored 8 tries in 23 games last year ... so output wasnt great .. (Sloan/Holmes/Tu all scored more last year)

he isnt the finisher he was in years past.
 
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Zen

SGI Jersey Flegg
Flanagan was supposedly interested in the Foxx back when the Dogs dumped him, but from memory he wanted 3 years and we only offered 2. I doubt we go back to the well 2 years later.. and I tend to agree with Rufus. Not worth it.
 

TheRev

SGI NSW Cup
Flanagan was supposedly interested in the Foxx back when the Dogs dumped him, but from memory he wanted 3 years and we only offered 2. I doubt we go back to the well 2 years later.. and I tend to agree with Rufus. Not worth it.
I 'think' the board or someone higher up shot it down.. its actually a shame cause the dude is gr8 value for money and seems a lot of fun around the boys.. I dunno I think parra were lucky to have him.. but I also dont rly know if we would go that path with Sami probably left side now.. and maybe try a cheaper option for the right.. probably just this year is the problem...

Must say I find him getting caught 2 is crazy unlucky.. I literally have been breath tested once in like 15 years.. to get done twice by a drug test not just a breath test.. while on the drugs.. while driving.. either hes permanently on the stuff and drives a lot... or hes the most unluckiest bloke in history.. I have a feeling a lot of other football players do the same thing but never get caught.. or maybe they dont do the driving..
 

Dave03

SGI NSW Cup
We don't know what type of impact he has on culture, I put more value on him lying to the Gus/Dogs board when he got caught than actually getting caught. He would be a massive upgrade on Tu but isn't a long term option either. Val got caught with a bag, Munster & Smith too. Walsh got caught early in his career with drugs.

I've heard he's great around the team & club, we can form opinions based on what he's done & others comments about him but we don't know what he's like for culture. We took a punt on Wendell Sailor which worked out well, he had his issues with drugs. I'm not fussed either way but I wouldn't rule him out.
 

Eric

Staff
IMO there are a number of issues. His repeated use of cocaine is just one. To get caught twice suggests he's using it a lot.
Secondly, is he still any good? I was surprised by these stats:
He scored 8 tries in 23 games last year ... so output wasnt great .. (Sloan/Holmes/Tu all scored more last year)

he isnt the finisher he was in years past.
But what I would say is that I see no special reason why we should be the moral police of the competition. To have Paul Vaughan and Corey Norman at the club coupled with a weak coach who was dominated by the playing group was just asking for trouble. Those days are behind us now.

Morally speaking, I wouldn't have an issue with signing him but I have doubts about his ability nowadays.
 

RufusRex

SGI NSW Cup
IMO there are a number of issues. His repeated use of cocaine is just one. To get caught twice suggests he's using it a lot.
Secondly, is he still any good? I was surprised by these stats:

But what I would say is that I see no special reason why we should be the moral police of the competition. To have Paul Vaughan and Corey Norman at the club coupled with a weak coach who was dominated by the playing group was just asking for trouble. Those days are behind us now.

Morally speaking, I wouldn't have an issue with signing him but I have doubts about his ability nowadays.

We dont have to be the moral police of the comp - your examples are well made. However, we may chose in the aftermath of BBQs, philandering etc that we want to draw a line in the sand and for the same reason that the eels recognise there was no positive B sample they dont want him at the club we dont want him either.

We could still have sloan for cheaper than JAC would cost with more upside culturally ...

The issue would be the same - we currently have more than 50% of our squad as backs .. we need to shift backs before we recruit more
 

Eric

Staff
Holmes and Suli will get shredded in defence if they are our centres

Big concerns out-wide
I hope Holmes has one more season left in him. He was so bad last season, it must have been the backs around him. I can't imagine he'd fall that far that fast.
 
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