GCRV
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No way! That would mean Flanno has totally lost touch for the modern game. Unless Heidke is found out in cup and should go back to Flegg but from all I've seen and heard, I very much doubt that.
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GCRV
SGI NSW Cup
Agree. Holmes, Heidke, Buchanan. If there is no development spot available now, Flanno needs to tap someone on the shoulder in order to free up a spot.
Or don't we still have 2 top 30 spots available?
RandomDragon
SGI Jersey Flegg
I mean, we made fundamental basic errors, you take those away we dominated the first half and could’ve gone up by 24-0. Fundamental errors are easily stamped out. It’s just a trial, chill out. Main thing was that we got through with no more injuries (sele will be fine)
RandomDragon
SGI Jersey Flegg
Also - no offence I get the anti Flano agenda, but trust me when I say this, if we get rid of Flano it WILL be Dean Young, no question about it. The anti Flano shit after a trial game is not productive and will not help the team leading into Vegas, so maybe drop it for the first few weeks and give them a chance…
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
At this moment no. His biggest failing is having the know how to bring out the best in a player seen as less able than others.
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
So would every coach. We cant keep using the excuse of poor personnel. It is up to the good coach to lift performances, otherwise why have one.
TheRev
SGI NSW Cup
100%, Young will be the interim for sure and that could spill into 2027 which would be a disaster for us. Run Hard Tackle Hard boyz.
It just depends how the season starts, if were 0from6 for example.. perspectives will be different.. but thats a long way away, lets get through Vegas first and get everyone back to their families and safe and then we can start our season proper...
RufusRex
SGI Jersey Flegg
The set after we scored (Gutho) we tackled them inside their 10m zone and their forwards were not back on side until the 4th play. As a result they kicked from their 40, gutho then takes the kick 15m out from our line with their nearest kick chaser 20m away. We didnt have that at all last year.
The set was Guler, Tui, Toby, Stewart, Gutho all one out but the huge thing was Atkinson kicking from halfway and our chase making contact 8m out. Massive for us.
Flano had no touches that set - no surprise it was a decent one.
The set was Guler, Tui, Toby, Stewart, Gutho all one out but the huge thing was Atkinson kicking from halfway and our chase making contact 8m out. Massive for us.
Flano had no touches that set - no surprise it was a decent one.
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
Did Ashton Ward then go into #7 as he has plenty of experience there. I really rated him when he controlled our Flegg side with Nick Quinn as the pivot. Size was his only deterrent to reaching the top level for mine. From the replay seems he has added some flesh and muscle since he was with us.
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RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
Who is to say Deano hasn't grown as a potential coach since his last interim spell with us. Not making any judgement until I see his results. I believe he'd still bleed for the RedV, like his old man.
GCRV
SGI NSW Cup
What's the agenda? I believe Flanno can turn it around but seriously, there needs to be accountability. Early signs are he is taking the team backward. They have gotten worse each year he's been in charge.
He's starting to remind me of Des Hasler at the Titans.
GCRV
SGI NSW Cup
Aston Ward stayed at 5/8 and gave Kyle an absolute bath. As did Dufty vs Gutho then Sloan.
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
Ditto DD. Some of the best finishing by a winger for a long time for mine. But that rosy picture turned to a muddy one as we lost that potentially finals bound Val/Sione partnership due to our hard to fathom coach.
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
Reckon.
jodragon40
Staff
I acknowledge its our first game with our top 30 and I know its per say a trial BUT. Disappointment is my first reaction.
Statistically most of them did favour us, except the errors, 13 - 8 in our favour, and that's not a stat you want to be winning. Completion rate improved slightly from last week 69% to 75%, Rabbits 85% so lost that one as well.
So to my eye my fears are being confirmed. Our 7 who hasn't played 7 in 2 seasons and it shows, and it is to be expected was ok but rusty.
Our 6 who played 7 the last 2 seasons didn't play 6 very well tonight. Defensively he was again good 32 tackles made 1 missed but lacks creativity in attack.
I was hoping to see some different attacking structures especially straightening the structure in midfield but alas nothing, same structures as the last 2 seasons.
It is vital that at least 1 of your halves run the ball and plays eyes up football and one manages the game. Tonight, Flanagan 3 runs for 30m and Atkinson 7 runs for 47m. That is simply not good enough. Absolutely no improvement in that area of the game.
Our 9 wasn't much better 6 runs 45m. So our 6, 7, and 9 made a total of 16 runs for 122m.
It means that defensively the opposition are not placed into two minds because our 6/7 with ball in hand are just linking in attack and not straightening the attack or running through or at the least taking on the line, and our 9 isn't going to make surprise darts out of dummy half but just clear the ruck area.
So defensively you just slide in defence and on most occasions any balls that were turned back inside in those type of attacking structures are and were covered tonight.
Now compare that to our 1st round opponents the Bulldogs today, and a saving grace for us is the unfortunate injury to their 6 Burton who won't be there come round 1 now with his hamstring injury.
Their 6, 7 and 9 combined for 36 runs and 260m, a very big difference, they were impressive today winning 28 zip. The zip being the impressive part. We leaked 28 points.
Kicking metres tonight, well when you take into consideration that the Rabbits lost their starting 7 early, we were still out kicked by their 2nd and 3rd tier halves, 711m - 822m, that's diabolical.
Anyone who honestly believe's that Cook at his age can play 80 min and be effective, well tonight would have answered that question. Liddle can't come back quickly enough.
So we still appear to still have issues with our spine. Yes it will take time for our halves to gel and compliment each other's playing styles but one of them needs to run the ball.
Positives out of that loss, very few, the return of Hamish Stewart by far our best forward, whilst he was out there, 7 runs, 70m , 39 tackles very impressive.
Unfortunately I was hoping to see more impact from our edge players Sua and Leilua but that really didn't eventuate with no line breaks and only 5 tackle breaks between them.
So we have Holmes to come back in for Fale in the backline otherwise that is it. One wing spot is up for grabs although CT has had 2 ordinary games.
We ran at one time or another during tonight's game our top 21 for this season.
It may well be another long season for us unless there is a rapid improvement from tonight's performance.
Just my views.
Statistically most of them did favour us, except the errors, 13 - 8 in our favour, and that's not a stat you want to be winning. Completion rate improved slightly from last week 69% to 75%, Rabbits 85% so lost that one as well.
So to my eye my fears are being confirmed. Our 7 who hasn't played 7 in 2 seasons and it shows, and it is to be expected was ok but rusty.
Our 6 who played 7 the last 2 seasons didn't play 6 very well tonight. Defensively he was again good 32 tackles made 1 missed but lacks creativity in attack.
I was hoping to see some different attacking structures especially straightening the structure in midfield but alas nothing, same structures as the last 2 seasons.
It is vital that at least 1 of your halves run the ball and plays eyes up football and one manages the game. Tonight, Flanagan 3 runs for 30m and Atkinson 7 runs for 47m. That is simply not good enough. Absolutely no improvement in that area of the game.
Our 9 wasn't much better 6 runs 45m. So our 6, 7, and 9 made a total of 16 runs for 122m.
It means that defensively the opposition are not placed into two minds because our 6/7 with ball in hand are just linking in attack and not straightening the attack or running through or at the least taking on the line, and our 9 isn't going to make surprise darts out of dummy half but just clear the ruck area.
So defensively you just slide in defence and on most occasions any balls that were turned back inside in those type of attacking structures are and were covered tonight.
Now compare that to our 1st round opponents the Bulldogs today, and a saving grace for us is the unfortunate injury to their 6 Burton who won't be there come round 1 now with his hamstring injury.
Their 6, 7 and 9 combined for 36 runs and 260m, a very big difference, they were impressive today winning 28 zip. The zip being the impressive part. We leaked 28 points.
Kicking metres tonight, well when you take into consideration that the Rabbits lost their starting 7 early, we were still out kicked by their 2nd and 3rd tier halves, 711m - 822m, that's diabolical.
Anyone who honestly believe's that Cook at his age can play 80 min and be effective, well tonight would have answered that question. Liddle can't come back quickly enough.
So we still appear to still have issues with our spine. Yes it will take time for our halves to gel and compliment each other's playing styles but one of them needs to run the ball.
Positives out of that loss, very few, the return of Hamish Stewart by far our best forward, whilst he was out there, 7 runs, 70m , 39 tackles very impressive.
Unfortunately I was hoping to see more impact from our edge players Sua and Leilua but that really didn't eventuate with no line breaks and only 5 tackle breaks between them.
So we have Holmes to come back in for Fale in the backline otherwise that is it. One wing spot is up for grabs although CT has had 2 ordinary games.
We ran at one time or another during tonight's game our top 21 for this season.
It may well be another long season for us unless there is a rapid improvement from tonight's performance.
Just my views.
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
He was given some pretty good cattle in Gutho, Val, Cook to add to JDB and some promising forwards. Had the chance to nail some elites but did not have the pulling power. His biggest faux pas was hanging onto the nameless one too long and then favoring him and his son to steer the ship.
Mailroomsgi
SGI NSW Cup
I’ve been saying it for a little while now, I am getting worried he’s a bit like Hasler at the titans where he’s just washed and we’re flogging a dead horse with him
I hope I look like a schmuck 2 months from now and we’ve won 5/5 to start the season but it’s not an agenda to expect better and hold people accountable
Like the kick chase stuff last night for example. That’s on the coach, the patterns of play and everything that encompasses our shit performances fall under Flanno’s umbrella
His dud recruits are on HIM, if he can’t elevate and develop players to get better than what is he providing as a head coach?
Sometimes the game just moves past coaches. Mourinho in soccer was the best coach in the world between 2004 and 2010 and from 2016 onwards he’s garbage. These things happen
Justadragon
SGI NSW Cup
More than happy to do that, are you going to let us of the leash if we are 0-4 or 5, because I will humbly apologize if we are in a positive track after the first 6-7 Rd's.
jodragon40
Staff
Suli would only hold back one of our young guns so in my humble opinion if not good enough to hold a centres spot in 1sts then it's back to ressies but that won't happen either
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
Salient views Jo.
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