jodragon40
Staff
He scored our first try and basked in the glory of that for the rest of the game. Played 46 mins 10 runs for 62m. Seriously? 6 m a run from a 1sts prop. Wouldn't be in my team the next week. But that's just me
Dragons v Dogs Round 1
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jodragon40
Staff
Got to disagree on some points, the game plan worked perfectly until the last 10 seconds. Playing to our strengths and limiting their opportunities.
Don't forget Atkinson is a 6 playing 7 after 2 seasons of limited 1sts time, he will improve. KF has reached his peak playing performance and is a solid defender. If we had an alternative 6 he would be my 14 until Liddle comes back but we all realise that won't happen.
Suli is still with us till the end of 27, his lack of sideways movement is making him a liability defensively.
Reality is the coach will see out his contract
Good point Atko’s kicks were good but the dogs kick chase was noticeably better
Justadragon
SGI NSW Cup
Didn't see many 6 agains today, unfortunately they were just straight out penalties against us. One thing though us burning our challenge was ridiculous, it could have saved us on numerous occasions, hopefully a lesson learnt.
Dave03
SGI NSW Cup
From memory we were pretty poor with our challenges last season too.
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
Yes sir. Considering the significant obstacles placed in front of Atkinson he was ok or good.
RufusRex
SGI Jersey Flegg
Not better - faster ...
Tu/Suli/Holmes with a dud hammy/Tui/Kyle/Luc ... that is a suckhole line of slow.
Get some more pace in that kick chase and it is immediately better.
No Surrender
SGI Jersey Flegg
Very physical game
Great defensive effort overall
Our younger forwards were awesome.
Our lack of speed out wide hindered our ability to score.
Our halves lack creativity so early in the season.
Atkinson is not a 7. He is a running 6.
Kyle lacks the creativity to organise an attack at NRL level.
The club needs to give LKT the opportunity to play 7.
Am unsure whether LKT’s defence has improved.
Val Holmes hasn’t recovered from injury or is not fit.
Suli is Suli. Average NRL centre.
Feagai looks sharper.
Our backline needs a revamp asap.
Reed is the answer. If he handles the physicality of Reserve grade after 4-6 rounds and our attack remains pedestrian, he must be promoted.
Galvin outplayed our halves and is both young and small. See no reason as to why Reed can’t play.
Great defensive effort overall
Our younger forwards were awesome.
Our lack of speed out wide hindered our ability to score.
Our halves lack creativity so early in the season.
Atkinson is not a 7. He is a running 6.
Kyle lacks the creativity to organise an attack at NRL level.
The club needs to give LKT the opportunity to play 7.
Am unsure whether LKT’s defence has improved.
Val Holmes hasn’t recovered from injury or is not fit.
Suli is Suli. Average NRL centre.
Feagai looks sharper.
Our backline needs a revamp asap.
Reed is the answer. If he handles the physicality of Reserve grade after 4-6 rounds and our attack remains pedestrian, he must be promoted.
Galvin outplayed our halves and is both young and small. See no reason as to why Reed can’t play.
RufusRex
SGI Jersey Flegg
neither Kyle/LKT or Atkinson are 7s ...
We either need to promote Reed or have another crack at borrowing Savala for 12 months.
We either need to promote Reed or have another crack at borrowing Savala for 12 months.
GCRV
SGI NSW Cup
Give him a few weeks in reserve grade and give Atkinson a few weeks to see what he can do with LKT but we know Flanno won't do that so really no use wondering how well they could work together.
Dave03
SGI NSW Cup
lol lkt at 7, he doesn't have a quality kicking game. Atko was superb considering it was his first game at halfback, it's unrealistic to make definite judgments after 1 game. He'll need time but his kicking game was pretty much spot on with depth, hang time & accuracy. His defence was pretty solid too & for the most part got into good positions to kick the ball.
Thinking he'll run the ball, kick, organise & have great defence from the start is foolish. He needs to nail down his kicking game & defence then build into other aspects of halfback play. Great signs first up.
Thinking he'll run the ball, kick, organise & have great defence from the start is foolish. He needs to nail down his kicking game & defence then build into other aspects of halfback play. Great signs first up.
jodragon40
Staff
Agree but we really need him to rediscover his running game
Zen
SGI Junior League
My verdict of this post: shite.
No, I should rephrase: utter, utter shite
In addition to being absolutely kissed on the dick by the officials, the Dogs had 54% possession, and a whopping 72% of field position. Tackled in the opposition 20 stats were 42-9. Yet we still scored the same amount of tries as the Dogs, and Gutherson was quite essential to one of them.
Dragons Chris
SGI NSW Cup
- Clinton Gutherson 5/10 busy as usual
- Christian Tuipulotu 5/10 ran for a lot of metres and made some good tackles but do we need wingers with a bit more speed?
- Moses Suli 4/10 Made metres running but nothing to worry them in attack and a couple of missed tackles.
- Valentine Holmes 4/10 Bad game from him.
- Setu Tu 6/10 best of the back 5. Were his cramps really that bad or was Flanno justifying using Feagai as the last interchange rather than LKT?
- Kyle Flanagan 1/10 He only cares about not making mistakes. Not only offers nothing in attack but messes it up for those outside of him.
- Daniel Atkinson 6/10 Kicking game was very good. Found the grass a lot of times in clearing kicks.
- Emre Guler 4/10 I know he scored the try but I have to think LPT is much better now.
- Damien Cook 7/10 good.
- Toby Couchman 8/10 Best on field?
- Luciano Leilua 7/10 Better when he was playing like a middle forward. I guess he was on Kyle's side so not as if he is going to get put into gaps.
- Jaydn Su’A 7/10 As above
- Hame Sele 7/10 Was good. Troubled their forwards.
- Hamish Stewart 7/10 defence was very good and ran as we have come to expect.
- Josh Kerr 3/10 I don't know why he was signed.
- Blake Lawrie N/A
- Ryan Couchman 7/10 Our second best?
- Lyhkan King-Togia N/A
- Mathew Feagai 5/10 Typical game for him. Well played by Flanno. He didn't want LKT on in case he did something good with the ball.
RufusRex
SGI Jersey Flegg
19. wrong
When suli went off HIA flano replaced with Feagai and that was the 4th interchange meaning LKT couldn’t come on
When suli went off HIA flano replaced with Feagai and that was the 4th interchange meaning LKT couldn’t come on
Dragons Chris
SGI NSW Cup
I know. Usually Su'A would've gone to centre while Suli was temporarily off the field.
Zen
SGI Junior League
And then went Tu went off with cramp does Sua go to the wing I presume? Playing Feagai was the right choice, but we never let facts get in the way of a good Kyle bashing
Dragons Chris
SGI NSW Cup
If his cramps were indeed that bad. I know cramps have forced players off before. Very rarely. I'm sorry if "bashing" Kyle is so upsetting for you but you are welcome to leave your own rating. I'm betting you have 8/10 and the best on field.
Dave03
SGI NSW Cup
Let him build into it. If we're relying on our new inexperienced halfback to do everything from the start then we're screwed. Others can also run the ball or be running threats. His long kicking kept us in the game.
Zen
SGI Junior League
Kyle is not an 8/10 but to invent some paranoid fantasy about why LKT didn't get on doesn't exactly help your futile attempts to appear sane and logical