Dragons v Storm Round 2

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Dragon David

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puff said:
FFS. He's had 3 years! This squad is of his making. Every coach wants Nathan Cleary and Payne Haas. Most don't get them. They have to fall back on a practice that is distinct from recruitment: COACHING.

With the exception of Fisher-Harris, who wanted to move back home, Warriors have mostly recruited players who couldn't get a game elsewhere. They have done quite well with these players.

Even the Melbourne spine that played yesterday were not in high demand before they got to Melbourne. Bellamy and his system COACHED them into becoming great players. They didn't replace Cameron Smith by signing the big name hooker of the day Damien Cook. Instead, they developed Harry Grant.

If Flanno can't coach the players he has, he's not a good coach. If he says he needs big name players but can't get them, he is not a good recruiter. Either way it is not working.
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Here, here puff. You are so right in my opinion.
 
TheRev

TheRev

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Dragon David said:
I've got a strong feeling that Flanno will be retained for a few years yet. He won't deserve it but my guess is that he will have several chances to redeem himself along the way this year.

Brad Arthur isn't the worst of the bunch of coaches wanting to get back into being a head coach in the NRL. Would he be that x factor coach that can at least get us playing more attractive footy and winning games if indeed Flanno does get the big chop?
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It just depends how bad the first half of the year goes.. right now our fans are wrist-slitting with 0 wins.. we have some soft games coming, if we can turn things around... im sure the club would MUCH prefer to keep things humming with Shane @ the helm in 2027.

But if in a month or 2 months time we end up 17th out of 17th by a fair margin.. I think conversations r happening, but I dont rly like the names that are likely to replace him either.. I dont see any obvious gun coaches out there we could bring in...
 
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Dragon David

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Eric said:
I can't speak for @jodragon40 but as far as I'm concerned, it need not be so strict. As long as you make an effort because I'm pretty sure that's what the vast majority of posters like. Though if you want to mention someone to get their attention, you need to enter the @ mark and then username without a space. Like this D Dragon David.
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jodragon40 said:
D Dragon David In my view, A thread topic should cover that particular topic. If you want to elaborate there is nothing wrong with saying that in the thread and then starting a new topic as suggested.

Then you can start a topic on the issues you wish to elaborate on. If you want to talk about Storm and players from other years that would require responses from other members thats how I would suggest you do it.

Comments on a particular topic should be about that topic. Otherwise it gets so bloody frustrating. Its akin waiting to catch a train from Central to Kogarah and along the way we end up at Penrith. Just my views. Keep on topic it helps everyone.
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Basically all I am wanting to write about is what Bellamy has maintained for over a decade to do to make the Storm so consistent with being on top and giving some examples etc. It could be long winded like some of my posts, but as you know, when you have stuff on your mind you want to openly express it, especially if no-one at home cares to listen. LOL
 
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Dragon David

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TheRev said:
It just depends how bad the first half of the year goes.. right now our fans are wrist-slitting with 0 wins.. we have some soft games coming, if we can turn things around... im sure the club would MUCH prefer to keep things humming with Shane @ the helm in 2027.

But if in a month or 2 months time we end up 17th out of 17th by a fair margin.. I think conversations r happening, but I dont rly like the names that are likely to replace him either.. I dont see any obvious gun coaches out there we could bring in...
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Yes, I agree. We need to now not continue with this as we do have that other Thread on Flanno and his son. :rolleyes:
 
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redv13

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When the draw came out everyone said geez Dogs then Melb, that’s 0-2. Why are people now jumping up and down when we are 0-2??

The dogs game, could have and should have won but we didn’t. Melb game we were up to our eyeballs in it with 20 to go. Few things happened, we dropped our bundle and Melb went up a couple of gears.

The next month will see where we are at. Playing 4 teams that are similar to us. Go 0-4 or 1-3 and fair enough, let’s go crazy.
 
Morgan

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redv13 said:
When the draw came out everyone said geez Dogs then Melb, that’s 0-2. Why are people now jumping up and down when we are 0-2??

The dogs game, could have and should have won but we didn’t. Melb game we were up to our eyeballs in it with 20 to go. Few things happened, we dropped our bundle and Melb went up a couple of gears.

The next month will see where we are at. Playing 4 teams that are similar to us. Go 0-4 or 1-3 and fair enough, let’s go crazy.
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I'm at a loss as to why the Dogs are rated so highly by so many.
 
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puff

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redv13 said:
When the draw came out everyone said geez Dogs then Melb, that’s 0-2. Why are people now jumping up and down when we are 0-2??

The dogs game, could have and should have won but we didn’t. Melb game we were up to our eyeballs in it with 20 to go. Few things happened, we dropped our bundle and Melb went up a couple of gears.

The next month will see where we are at. Playing 4 teams that are similar to us. Go 0-4 or 1-3 and fair enough, let’s go crazy.
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I'm not jumping up and down at 0-2. I am concerned by yesterday's performance. Losing to Storm is always a possibility. Self-sabotage was dissapointing and does not augur well for the season ahead.
 
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Justadragon

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redv13 said:
When the draw came out everyone said geez Dogs then Melb, that’s 0-2. Why are people now jumping up and down when we are 0-2??

The dogs game, could have and should have won but we didn’t. Melb game we were up to our eyeballs in it with 20 to go. Few things happened, we dropped our bundle and Melb went up a couple of gears.

The next month will see where we are at. Playing 4 teams that are similar to us. Go 0-4 or 1-3 and fair enough, let’s go crazy.
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Mate I'm not upset that we lost to Melb, its the way we lost and the excuses that keep getting thrown up. If we cant handle a player going off for a HIA and lose our bundle because of it, then something is terribly wrong. On top of that we dont have the players that can provide an extra gear for us. IMO its very realistic that we will be 0-3, we are now saying that Parra is a must win game, and it is.
 
RedVHeartbeat

RedVHeartbeat

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Frank Facer said:
Flanno hasn't got the players he wanted. He got the players he could get. There is a massive difference. Next year we will be stronger
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He and the club have no pulling power. Sad given the pulling power of our past great teams. Just what has this j/v produced for us, one title, several finals, but zilch for much of the time, specially last seven yrs.
It has been a failure.
 
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RufusRex

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when you are under the pump and give away the drop out, the options are
Kick long, sprint, defend and prepare for their last play option from 10m out
or
run the drop out clock down, kick the ball out, get a bit more to recover/rest, defend your goal line from 10m out without the fatigue of a 40m sprint, defend the last play from 5m out.
 
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Dragon David

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RufusRex said:
when you are under the pump and give away the drop out, the options are
Kick long, sprint, defend and prepare for their last play option from 10m out
or
run the drop out clock down, kick the ball out, get a bit more to recover/rest, defend your goal line from 10m out without the fatigue of a 40m sprint, defend the last play from 5m out.
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Admittedly, with the short kick out there is a good chance of it being regathered by the kicking team and that of course is the aim. In our case the success rate is low, from what I have read, so practise makes perfect which is a mantra from most learned teachers/coaches. The more you practise the better you get at it like everything else in life.
 
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puff

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RufusRex said:
when you are under the pump and give away the drop out, the options are
Kick long, sprint, defend and prepare for their last play option from 10m out
or
run the drop out clock down, kick the ball out, get a bit more to recover/rest, defend your goal line from 10m out without the fatigue of a 40m sprint, defend the last play from 5m out.
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Also get a free shot at getting it back. Shit rule, though.
 
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Dragon David

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RufusRex said:
100% shit rule

If you want that rule then you need two caveats on it ..
1. Out of the full is still a penalty 10m out right in front
2. The receiving team can play at the ball at any time without penalty.

the current interpretation rewards a lack of skill.
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Very true RR. Why do they have to bring in new rules every year? I've explained to my wife how the games are played and the rules that apply and she is now not interested in league because I keep having to tell her what the rules are every year and it pisses her off!!:LOL:
 
Frank Facer

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RedVHeartbeat said:
He and the club have no pulling power. Sad given the pulling power of our past great teams. Just what has this j/v produced for us, one title, several finals, but zilch for much of the time, specially last seven yrs.
It has been a failure.
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Especially the last 14 years. Making the semis once in that period.
 
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