Recruitment & Retention 2027

RedV01

SGI NSW Cup
Future looks bright. But need a few things to go our way this year.
We have a lot of serious talent coming through but I have to say, do you really think on almost every other clubs forum they aren't waxing lyrical about their emerging talent?

Anuway, I still remember when Gaz, Coops, Bull Bailey, Deano, Hornby, Ryles and a pretty decent support staff all came into first grade within a couple of years of each other. Just a bit after that Morris, Nighty. I hope we are about to see something like this again.
 
We have a lot of serious talent coming through but I have to say, do you really think on almost every other clubs forum they aren't waxing lyrical about their emerging talent?

Anuway, I still remember when Gaz, Coops, Bull Bailey, Deano, Hornby, Ryles and a pretty decent support staff all came into first grade within a couple of years of each other. Just a bit after that Morris, Nighty. I hope we are about to see something like this again.
I believe we are on the cusp of that once again, you mentioned some great players there
 

Justadragon

SGI NSW Cup
I'm willing to be understanding about 2026, but come 2027, I really dont want anymore excuses. Enough is enough we have been at this now for 16 years hearing the same crap every year. The last few years have been just about the worst I have seen. no more we haven't got a COE, we haven't got a Marquee prop etc. This is a results driven sport and we have been pretty piss poor now for a long time. As Watsford said, with the new teams coming in we cant afford to be a consistent bottom 4 club, so either get with the program or piss off.
The Liddle news couldn't have come at a worse time, its taken me from being fairly excited about the season to throwing a lot of things up in the air and hoping we dont get pumped in Vegas. I know how we are on the big stage, I really dont feel like getting embarrassed in Rd 1, I usually save that for Anzac day.
 
I'm willing to be understanding about 2026, but come 2027, I really dont want anymore excuses. Enough is enough we have been at this now for 16 years hearing the same crap every year. The last few years have been just about the worst I have seen. no more we haven't got a COE, we haven't got a Marquee prop etc. This is a results driven sport and we have been pretty piss poor now for a long time. As Watsford said, with the new teams coming in we cant afford to be a consistent bottom 4 club, so either get with the program or piss off.
The Liddle news couldn't have come at a worse time, its taken me from being fairly excited about the season to throwing a lot of things up in the air and hoping we dont get pumped in Vegas. I know how we are on the big stage, I really dont feel like getting embarrassed in Rd 1, I usually save that for Anzac day.
The signs are its finally happening we just have to be patient for 1 more season
 

TheRev

SGI NSW Cup
Im a dumbarse
I dont think it was clear from the graphic that it was an U21 contract.. perhaps that he will play some U21's.. but id say more realistically he would be wanting to come here for NSW Cup.. he should have played some last year but obviously out of favour with knights coaches. The kid was on a train and trial..
We are on the same page, I agree with all you have said. Age and experience will take you so far when we talk about the spine. I hope Atkinson proves me wrong and can game manage but speaking from experience it's a big ask considering the lack of genuine 7 1st grade time in the last 2 years.
I'm backing Atkinson.. no other choice, if he doesnt come good we r f***ed! He might make errors but I reckon hes a good egg.. kicking boot will atleast be bigger than Kyles, hope he can keep his cool, maybe the risk that playing 7 makes it hard for him to focus on his own game.. and maybe he would be better at 2nd receiver than Kyle.. maybe Kyle and he will swap around..

I think there is a good one in him.. worst case he ends up in another position in 2027 but rly hoping hes a lot better than expected.. the other thing is that he remains injury free.. we have quite a few injury prone players which makes being consistent so difficult.. Sele for example should be one of our starting props but hes never there... but with the halves.. guys like hunt and kyle and amone even.. were never injured.. its a huge bonus..
 

Frank Facer

SGI Jersey Flegg
We have a lot of serious talent coming through but I have to say, do you really think on almost every other clubs forum they aren't waxing lyrical about their emerging talent?

Anuway, I still remember when Gaz, Coops, Bull Bailey, Deano, Hornby, Ryles and a pretty decent support staff all came into first grade within a couple of years of each other. Just a bit after that Morris, Nighty. I hope we are about to see something like this again.
Add Ben Creagh and Matty Head to the list and the signing of young Brett Kite.
 

Frank Facer

SGI Jersey Flegg
I'm willing to be understanding about 2026, but come 2027, I really dont want anymore excuses. Enough is enough we have been at this now for 16 years hearing the same crap every year. The last few years have been just about the worst I have seen. no more we haven't got a COE, we haven't got a Marquee prop etc. This is a results driven sport and we have been pretty piss poor now for a long time. As Watsford said, with the new teams coming in we cant afford to be a consistent bottom 4 club, so either get with the program or piss off.
The Liddle news couldn't have come at a worse time, its taken me from being fairly excited about the season to throwing a lot of things up in the air and hoping we dont get pumped in Vegas. I know how we are on the big stage, I really dont feel like getting embarrassed in Rd 1, I usually save that for Anzac day.
Gutho only has a year or 2 years to go and is running on old legs so to speak. We don't have any marquee halves or fullback for 27 and beyond. Those are probably the most important positions on the field, along with props. We do look to have quality props for 27 and beyond. Until we have marquee or at least very high quality halves and fullback, we are going to struggle to make the top 8. We have to aim for the "stars" in the halves and fullback.
 

Ryan

SGI NSW Cup
Gutho only has a year or 2 years to go and is running on old legs so to speak. We don't have any marquee halves or fullback for 27 and beyond. Those are probably the most important positions on the field, along with props. We do look to have quality props for 27 and beyond. Until we have marquee or at least very high quality halves and fullback, we are going to struggle to make the top 8. We have to aim for the "stars" in the halves and fullback.
This is what Rocco Walker was signed for or why Burton was extended. They'll be teenagers when Gutho calls it a day but not unprecedentedly young. Far from it.
 

Dragons Chris

SGI NSW Cup
I am quite sure all coaches are consulted on possible recruits and who is let go. Take when Ryles took over at Parra. It was said that he let Gutho go and planned to play Iongi at fullback.

When Flanno took over, I don't think we had a recruitment officer and Flanno was doing both jobs and setting up the "pathways" as well.

When David Fifita signed with Souths, it was said Bennett signed him.
Fifita had a personal relationship with Bennett and do you think Flanno's record stacks up pretty well against Bennetts? So much so it allows Flanno the leeway to make recruitment and retention decisions on his own the way Bennett can?

Flanno had that power and it lead to Leilua on a reported almost 1 mil a year. His other recruits have far from been good as well.

I think Gutho and Cook are good but for what they are being paid and at the stage of their careers they are at, they should be much better.

Nope, the club was right to bring in DA, give him the final say with recruitment and retention and tell Flanno to concentrate on coaching.
 

redv4life

SGI Jersey Flegg
Fifita had a personal relationship with Bennett and do you think Flanno's record stacks up pretty well against Bennetts? So much so it allows Flanno the leeway to make recruitment and retention decisions on his own the way Bennett can?

Flanno had that power and it lead to Leilua on a reported almost 1 mil a year. His other recruits have far from been good as well.

I think Gutho and Cook are good but for what they are being paid and at the stage of their careers they are at, they should be much better.

Nope, the club was right to bring in DA, give him the final say with recruitment and retention and tell Flanno to concentrate on coaching.
I’m sure Flanno and DA collaborate in terms of recruitment but you’re right. DA would’ve just got Iongi instead.
 

Justadragon

SGI NSW Cup
I dont think it was clear from the graphic that it was an U21 contract.. perhaps that he will play some U21's.. but id say more realistically he would be wanting to come here for NSW Cup.. he should have played some last year but obviously out of favour with knights coaches. The kid was on a train and trial..

I'm backing Atkinson.. no other choice, if he doesnt come good we r f***ed! He might make errors but I reckon hes a good egg.. kicking boot will atleast be bigger than Kyles, hope he can keep his cool, maybe the risk that playing 7 makes it hard for him to focus on his own game.. and maybe he would be better at 2nd receiver than Kyle.. maybe Kyle and he will swap around..

I think there is a good one in him.. worst case he ends up in another position in 2027 but rly hoping hes a lot better than expected.. the other thing is that he remains injury free.. we have quite a few injury prone players which makes being consistent so difficult.. Sele for example should be one of our starting props but hes never there... but with the halves.. guys like hunt and kyle and amone even.. were never injured.. its a huge bonus..
The best thing about it Rev is that he has the right attitude, thats a great start.
 

TSP

SGI Jersey Flegg
TSP TSP curious on your player rumour
Ok, well strictly speaking it’s not totally SGI related.

I’ll talk in a cryptic poem riddle thing as I’m not sure it’s public.

I played at SGI
Then I was moved along
At my new club I did say
I was unwanted by Flanno.

My time at my new club was sad
Not so many games
I fell out of favour too early
Alas, it was all in vain.

But I’m only being moved along
To make the extra room
So my club can buy another player
As part of their new broom.

The player is tough had injuries
Now lives near surf so gold
But secret meetings are being held
to bring him back to Sydney cold.

That can do for the moment, there’s two players for you to have a shot at plus 2 clubs involved!

Good luck!

If anyone wants to guess…

I can pm a moderator with the answer to keep me honest at their request. But they need to swear on the memory of Stoney not to reveal anything. That’s a pretty sacred vow I’d say.

 
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Frank Facer

SGI Jersey Flegg
Fifita had a personal relationship with Bennett and do you think Flanno's record stacks up pretty well against Bennetts? So much so it allows Flanno the leeway to make recruitment and retention decisions on his own the way Bennett can?

Flanno had that power and it lead to Leilua on a reported almost 1 mil a year. His other recruits have far from been good as well.

I think Gutho and Cook are good but for what they are being paid and at the stage of their careers they are at, they should be much better.

Nope, the club was right to bring in DA, give him the final say with recruitment and retention and tell Flanno to concentrate on coaching.
I think if Flanno coached Brisbane from 1988 to 2008 with the teams Bennett had at his disposal, he would have won as many comps as Bennett did. Bennett hasn't won a comp since 2010. Flanno last won a comp in 2016. Flanno also took Cronulla from a team missing the semi's to a team that made the semis regularly.

I don't agree with the signing of Leilua for 900K a season, but we must have had a lot of salary cap space and nowhere better to spend it.

Gutho and Cook are good for our leadership, which we were lacking in and again, who else could we have signed instead.

I can pretty much guarantee you, DA won't be signing anyone who Flanno doesn't want. Yes, Flanno can concentrate on coaching and let DA do the job of recruitment and also go and scout juniors. DA does look like an astute signing. Kyle Stanley also looks to be doing a good job of scouting young talent.
 
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TheRev

SGI NSW Cup
Ok, well strictly speaking it’s not totally SGI related.

I’ll talk in a cryptic poem riddle thing as I’m not sure it’s public.

I played at SGI
Then I was moved along
At my new club I did say
I was unwanted by Flanno.

My time at my new club was sad
Not so many games
I fell out of favour too early
Alas, it was all in vain.

But I’m only being moved along
To make the extra room
So my club can buy another player
As part of their new broom.

The player is tough had injuries
Now lives near surf so gold
But secret meetings are being held
to bring him back to Sydney cold.

That can do for the moment, there’s two players for you to have a shot at plus 2 clubs involved!

Good luck!

If anyone wants to guess…
Just wanted to say bravo on the effort to create this riddle lol..
 

Eric

Staff
Ok, well strictly speaking it’s not totally SGI related.

I’ll talk in a cryptic poem riddle thing as I’m not sure it’s public.

I played at SGI
Then I was moved along
At my new club I did say
I was unwanted by Flanno.

My time at my new club was sad
Not so many games
I fell out of favour too early
Alas, it was all in vain.

But I’m only being moved along
To make the extra room
So my club can buy another player
As part of their new broom.

The player is tough had injuries
Now lives near surf so gold
But secret meetings are being held
to bring him back to Sydney cold.

That can do for the moment, there’s two players for you to have a shot at plus 2 clubs involved!

Good luck!

If anyone wants to guess…

I can pm a moderator with the answer to keep me honest at their request. But they need to swear on the memory of Stoney not to reveal anything. That’s a pretty sacred vow I’d say.

I'm stumped.
 
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