Recruitment & Retention 2027

[Dave03]

If players knew Flanno wasn't the coach anymore, would we be a more attractive recruitment destination? I doubt players are coming to be coached by him, especially the younger ones who don't really care about his premiership & tbh looks washed out now with his game style.

 

[dragonheart]

Frank, you're starting to sound like a fan giving the coach more time, possibly another year?

Don't get soft now his time is up! ............,new coach and new modern direction needed.

These young forwards cant keep banging their bodies and get defeatist, this is not fair on them or us fans

 

[Frank Facer]

Frank, you're starting to sound like a fan giving the coach more time, possibly another year?

Don't get soft now his time is up! ............,new coach and new modern direction needed.

These young forwards cant keep banging their bodies and get defeatist, this is not fair on them or us fans

I am stating the our problems were there long before Flanno took over. I am saying that I don't think any other coach would have done any better than Flanno has over the last 2 years and 4 games for us. I do think he shouldn't be playing Kyle, but I don't think King Togia is the answer. I would be playing Reed if I was in his position and coaching for my career. I am saying that being located at Wollongong is the problem and has been the problem, since Bennett left. I am saying that our billionaire half owner doesn't look to have done anything to help us win.

 

[dragonheart]

Agree with all that, but coach still needs to go.

The team is just going through the motions overall. .......its so slow and painful with absolutely zilch creativity. We can't win like this.

 

[dragonheart]

I'm not sure if Wollongong is the real problem and it doesn't matter because it's the new home mostly from now on. So we need to suck up and get on and make it attractive for others.

 

[redv4life]

I am stating the our problems were there long before Flanno took over. I am saying that I don't think any other coach would have done any better than Flanno has over the last 2 years and 4 games for us. I do think he shouldn't be playing Kyle, but I don't think King Togia is the answer. I would be playing Reed if I was in his position and coaching for my career. I am saying that being located at Wollongong is the problem and has been the problem, since Bennett left. I am saying that our billionaire half owner doesn't look to have done anything to help us win.

Flanno’s not 100% responsible but has certainly contributed to the problem. He’s gotta go

 

[Eric]

I'm not sure if Wollongong is the real problem and it doesn't matter because it's the new home mostly from now on. So we need to suck up and get on and make it attractive for others.

I haven't read it but please, I beg, tell me Frank isn't still banging on about all our ills being due to being based in Wollongong....... Not only is it tedious but it's plain wrong!

 

[Frank Facer]

I would also like to see Flanno given until next year, just to give him a chance with a decent roster and and a chance to prove all the Flanno blamers and haters wrong and see us make the top 8 next year. I never expected us to make the top 8 the previous 2 seasons or this season. Before this season started, I said, I was hoping we could be a top 8 team by next year and that same still applies. I also said I would be playing Reed at halfback this year. That is my biggest gripe with Flanno. Him picking Kyle also looks like it is also getting the playing, players relatives and fans all offside with him. I agree we should have better than Kyle. We also need some faster and better backs. I would be looking at Jenkins for starters. Hopefully Jesse Williams can come on this year and be our other winger by next year, but we have already signed Sami, who I am not very happy about. We need a good fullback, I have stated many times who I would go for as that player, but it doesn't sound/look like we have even tried to sign him. By next year, we will have a good forward pack and a good halfback. That is the base for a good team.

We have not won a game this year, but we came very close against Canterbury. Were leading Melbourne with 20 to go, before the wheels fell off. Were in the game against Parra, pretty much all game and then got beat near the end of the game by the Gold Coast. With a bit of luck, we could have won all the games we played this year, but instead we have lost all of them. If we had won against the Gold Coast, Josh Hannay would have been 4 loses from his first 4 games.

 

[redv13]

I haven't read it but please, I beg, tell me Frank isn't still banging on about all our ills being due to being based in Wollongong....... Not only is it tedious but it's plain wrong!

Corrrreeeccccttttt. Just saved you half an hour of your life and a migraine to go with it

 

[redv13]

I would also like to see Flanno given until next year, just to give him a chance with a decent roster and and a chance to prove all the Flanno blamers and haters wrong and see us make the top 8 next year. I never expected us to make the top 8 the previous 2 seasons or this season. Before this season started, I said, I was hoping we could be a top 8 team by next year and that same still applies. I also said I would be playing Reed at halfback this year. That is my biggest gripe with Flanno. Him picking Kyle also looks like it is also getting the playing, players relatives and fans all offside with him. I agree we should have better than Kyle. We also need some faster and better backs. I would be looking at Jenkins for starters. Hopefully Jesse Williams can come on this year and be our other winger by next year, but we have already signed Sami, who I am not very happy about. We need a good fullback, I have stated many times who I would go for as that player, but it doesn't sound/look like we have even tried to sign him. By next year, we will have a good forward pack and a good halfback. That is the base for a good team.

We have not won a game this year, but we came very close against Canterbury. Were leading Melbourne with 20 to go, before the wheels fell off. Were in the game against Parra, pretty much all game and then got beat near the end of the game by the Gold Coast. With a bit of luck, we could have won all the games we played this year, but instead we have lost all of them. If we had won against the Gold Coast, Josh Hannay would have been 4 loses from his first 4 games.

There’s a massive difference being in the mix for the 8 but sort of just dropping short and being inept, dog shit, rudderless and stone cold last on the ladder.

From the 35th min vs Parra until full time vs the GC we were reserve grade quality. Absolute garbage. All 2nd half vs Parra they we’re begging to get beat, playing poorly, man short for 10 mins, a 2nd rower playing centre and we totally screwed it up over and over again.

The GC game, geez, where do I start?? That was the saddest performance I’ve seen from Saints in a long time. Horrible, horrendous, garbage, dog shit, whatever you want to call it. GC were about a 3/10 and found a way to win in the last 10 mins. So what does that say about us?? That performance was as soulless since the dogs destroyed us at Kogarah for the Lance Thompson memorial game. RIP Thommo.

 

[jodragon40]

If players knew Flanno wasn't the coach anymore, would we be a more attractive recruitment destination? I doubt players are coming to be coached by him, especially the younger ones who don't really care about his premiership & tbh looks washed out now with his game style.

As I indicated in another post Flanagan is still a no go zone with a number of player managers.

 

[jodragon40]

I would also like to see Flanno given until next year, just to give him a chance with a decent roster and and a chance to prove all the Flanno blamers and haters wrong and see us make the top 8 next year. I never expected us to make the top 8 the previous 2 seasons or this season. Before this season started, I said, I was hoping we could be a top 8 team by next year and that same still applies. I also said I would be playing Reed at halfback this year. That is my biggest gripe with Flanno. Him picking Kyle also looks like it is also getting the playing, players relatives and fans all offside with him. I agree we should have better than Kyle. We also need some faster and better backs. I would be looking at Jenkins for starters. Hopefully Jesse Williams can come on this year and be our other winger by next year, but we have already signed Sami, who I am not very happy about. We need a good fullback, I have stated many times who I would go for as that player, but it doesn't sound/look like we have even tried to sign him. By next year, we will have a good forward pack and a good halfback. That is the base for a good team.

We have not won a game this year, but we came very close against Canterbury. Were leading Melbourne with 20 to go, before the wheels fell off. Were in the game against Parra, pretty much all game and then got beat near the end of the game by the Gold Coast. With a bit of luck, we could have won all the games we played this year, but instead we have lost all of them. If we had won against the Gold Coast, Josh Hannay would have been 4 loses from his first 4 games.

I was there, never ever during that game did I believe that we were going to go on with it even after we hit the lead. We still lack a game manager

 

[jodragon40]

Agree with all that, but coach still needs to go.

The team is just going through the motions overall. .......its so slow and painful with absolutely zilch creativity. We can't win like this.

Just my 2c worth. As a coach by the time round 1 comes along you have decided with the personnel you have what game plans you can have based on the current team.

As a coach you have to set achievable goals and targets that the players can reach and buy into.

You won't be seeing 2nd phase football from inside our half much this season because we simply don't have the speed and creativity in our backline.

You won't be seeing surprise chip and chase, inside flick passes or taking on the line with dummy or steps because that is not the types of players that we have in our halves.

We have big players, Suli/ CT in our backs and the edges Luc and Su'a your not going to make speed related game plans around those players.

So the game plans need to be restricted to your individual players and the team as a whole strengths.

I just base those comments on my own personal experiences. Just my views.

 

[Morgan]

I would also like to see Flanno given until next year, just to give him a chance with a decent roster and and a chance to prove all the Flanno blamers and haters wrong and see us make the top 8 next year. I never expected us to make the top 8 the previous 2 seasons or this season. Before this season started, I said, I was hoping we could be a top 8 team by next year and that same still applies. I also said I would be playing Reed at halfback this year. That is my biggest gripe with Flanno. Him picking Kyle also looks like it is also getting the playing, players relatives and fans all offside with him. I agree we should have better than Kyle. We also need some faster and better backs. I would be looking at Jenkins for starters. Hopefully Jesse Williams can come on this year and be our other winger by next year, but we have already signed Sami, who I am not very happy about. We need a good fullback, I have stated many times who I would go for as that player, but it doesn't sound/look like we have even tried to sign him. By next year, we will have a good forward pack and a good halfback. That is the base for a good team.

We have not won a game this year, but we came very close against Canterbury. Were leading Melbourne with 20 to go, before the wheels fell off. Were in the game against Parra, pretty much all game and then got beat near the end of the game by the Gold Coast. With a bit of luck, we could have won all the games we played this year, but instead we have lost all of them. If we had won against the Gold Coast, Josh Hannay would have been 4 loses from his first 4 games.

Unbelievable! We are on a 8 game losing streak, lose to NQ and Manly in the next two rounds and we'll be in NRL losing streak record territory by the time Origin comes around, well under 40% win ratio, probably worse than Price, McGregor and Griffin and you want to give Flanno until next year. Talk about a losing culture.

But I don't believe. Do you have some kind of personal relationship with the Flanagan family? Or let me put it this way; After Flanno is sacked, will you still support the Dragons?

 

[Frank Facer]

I was there, never ever during that game did I believe that we were going to go on with it even after we hit the lead. We still lack a game manager

I agree that we looked terrible against the Gold Coast. We were leading with not long to go, after playing that badly. I know it was the Gold Coast. I also agree 100% we lack a game manager. That is why I would be playing Reed. He looked excellent in the trial against Souths. He was easily our best player that night.

 

[Frank Facer]

Just my 2c worth. As a coach by the time round 1 comes along you have decided with the personnel you have what game plans you can have based on the current team.

As a coach you have to set achievable goals and targets that the players can reach and buy into.

You won't be seeing 2nd phase football from inside our half much this season because we simply don't have the speed and creativity in our backline.

You won't be seeing surprise chip and chase, inside flick passes or taking on the line with dummy or steps because that is not the types of players that we have in our halves.

We have big players, Suli/ CT in our backs and the edges Luc and Su'a your not going to make speed related game plans around those players.

So the game plans need to be restricted to your individual players and the team as a whole strengths.

I just base those comments on my own personal experiences. Just my views.

Reed showed in the one trial game he played that he was prepared to chip and chase and I think he was also prepared to take on the line with a dummy or steps.

 

[jodragon40]

Reed showed in the one trial game he played that he was prepared to chip and chase and I think he was also prepared to take on the line with a dummy or steps.

Unfortunately in my humble view hes not ready physically for the weekly rigours of 1st grade

 

[Morgan]

Unfortunately in my humble view hes not ready physically for the weekly rigours of 1st grade

You are right. He needs at least half a season in reserve grade. At least. I'd keep him in reserve grade this year but definitely in line to be starting halfback from round 1 next year. I'm not being overly cautious as you sometimes are.

 

[redv4life]

There are bigger issues than even I thought. Don’t wanna go too much into it but we will lose our absolute best kids if Shane isn’t sacked soon

 

[Frank Facer]

Unbelievable! We are on a 8 game losing streak, lose to NQ and Manly in the next two rounds and we'll be in NRL losing streak record territory by the time Origin comes around, well under 40% win ratio, probably worse than Price, McGregor and Griffin and you want to give Flanno until next year. Talk about a losing culture.

But I don't believe. Do you have some kind of personal relationship with the Flanagan family? Or let me put it this way; After Flanno is sacked, will you still support the Dragons?

I have no relationship with Flanno or his family.

We lost the last 4 games of last season, with a team that was decimated with injuries.

We have had a roster that is considered one of, if not the worst in the comp before Flanno took over and since Flanno took over. We have had a roster that if I was a prospective coach, I wouldn't have taken the job, just like Slater, Ryles, Ciraldo and Fitzgibbon all didn't want.

I have supported St George since 1979. I couldn't support any other team. If I was super rich, I would buy St George and make them a powerhouse club and located us at Kogarah. I would even build us a new stadium and club, if I was rich enough. I am St George through and through.

I also think changing the coach is like re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic, unless we can get someone of the likes of Bellamy, Cleary and Nathan or Webster.

I also don't think any teams that are not from Sydney, Brisbane or Melbourne will win the comp in the next 5 years. Do you think any of them will?