Round 10: St. George Illawarra v Newcastle

RufusRex

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all comes down to the decision to stop penalising teams for being inside the 5m in attack.
A tragic decision that was the catalyst for the game we have now. Everything in the game is now based on teams trying to get back the 10 whilst conserving the most amount of energy possible.

The wrestle and ruck speed - all about the defensive line setting
The roll at the play the ball - all about getting the ball back into play before the retreating defensive line sets
Six agains for offside/ruck infringements - all about refs not wanting to stop the game and penalise teams for not getting back in time

the game was killed in the 93, we are only just realising it.


The game and officials need to decide how long a team making a decent tackle should have to reset their defensive line - and that includes a solid legs tackle. Get that part right with a decent time and you can start getting back to penalties not 6 agains.
 
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jodragon40 said:
In.my personal view the 6 again needs to go.
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Absolute lottery and the refs have taken it up a level this year. Very sad what the game has become. Scoring 24 pts a game (pre 6 again) would have more than likely got you the win. These days forget it!!

Roosters up 30-0, nearly blew it.
Newcastle up 28-6 after 30 mins, Souths up 38-36 with 7 mins to go and Newcastle nearly shit the bed again on full time after being up 42-38 with 4 mins to go.

I’m sorry, I know some people say it’s entertaining but it reminds me of when the 20’s comp was on a few years back. Those scores were the norm every week
 
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redv13 said:
Absolute lottery and the refs have taken it up a level this year. Very sad what the game has become. Scoring 24 pts a game (pre 6 again) would have more than likely got you the win. These days forget it!!

Roosters up 30-0, nearly blew it.
Newcastle up 28-6 after 30 mins, 36 all with 9 mins to go and nearly shit the bed right on full time.

I’m sorry, I know some people say it’s entertaining but it reminds me of when the 20’s comp was on a few years back. Those scores were the norm every week
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Absolutely agree
 
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Deffo Gutho to FB imo, was never a solution to have Sloan back for the sake of his 'speed' and the Gutho injury forced the change, and atleast put an end to that concept for the 15th time its been tried (atleast I hope), actually something in the link above was talking that fullbacks need to run closer to the ruck now, not out wide like traditionally they did... be nice if Drinkie was here right now..

If Dylan goes left edge.. probably ryan right edge rather than Nick or Halangahu.. though could be the latter... would have thought Dylan would have been a better protector but he is also not fully fit.... but I think if Kade does play right, thats more about Kade taking control + Atkinson being out of form.. could also mean Kade does more of the kicking.. but I kind of like Atkinson doing a lot of that... he has a big boot its more that its just 1 less thing less on Kades shoulders.. hes already going to struggle to go 80mins.. also less chance of getting creamed mid kick..
 
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TheRev said:
Good listen from Ben Gardiner this morning, best part is from 9m33s till 15m37s talks about what the successful clubs are doing, what's changed with the defence.. the role of the big guy etc:
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I pray that Dean implements some kind of structural change that not only plays to our strengths, but matches the template Gardiner talks about here. Instead of the sweeping backline movements with Gutho as link man to our slow ponderous outside backs - switch the focus to the middle with our quick halves, our quick hookers, and use our powerful edge forwards as weapons to attack the A & B defenders.
 
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Zen said:
I pray that Dean implements some kind of structural change that not only plays to our strengths, but matches the template Gardiner talks about here. Instead of the sweeping backline movements with Gutho as link man to our slow ponderous outside backs - switch the focus to the middle with our quick halves, our quick hookers, and use our powerful edge forwards as weapons to attack the A & B defenders.
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We can only hope as we certainly have not been playing to our strengths no matter how limited those strengths are
 
RedV01

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Justadragon said:
Maybe change it from 6 again to 1 more everytime there is an infringement.
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Dj Khaled Compliment GIF
 
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redv13 said:
Just want to see the boys have a legit crack and still be in the game up to their eyeballs with 10 mins to go. Have some pride individually and for the red V
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Mate that hasn't happened for the last 12 games. You can sit there and say it was embarrassing after the game, but when you see Holmes laughing and carrying on with Roosters players after being pumped by 60 and not winning a game all season, he certainly doesn't give a shit about pride in the jumper. He's a pay cheque player who has checked out, personally I think he should be punted to ressies.
 
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Justadragon said:
Maybe change it from 6 again to 1 more everytime there is an infringement.
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That is pretty much what they are right now, the majority come on first or 2nd play ... The play 5 one is still pretty rare ..

The issue will be that if the penalty is just one tackle not a new set the refs will call a lot more of them, the stupid bell will be going off all the time and no-one will be the wise for why ..


call actual penalties with actual kicks for touch and f*ck this charade off ...

PS .. soon teams will realise that if they get an offside 6 again they just need to drop the ball or throw a forward pass and they will get the full penalty and with that a bit more time and a lot more distance.
 
jodragon40

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Justadragon said:
Mate that hasn't happened for the last 12 games. You can sit there and say it was embarrassing after the game, but when you see Holmes laughing and carrying on with Roosters players after being pumped by 60 and not winning a game all season, he certainly doesn't give a shit about pride in the jumper. He's a pay cheque player who has checked out, personally I think he should be punted to ressies.
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I was at the ground and just shook my head. Their heads should have been bowed and the body language to me was off.
 
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TheRev said:
Deffo Gutho to FB imo, was never a solution to have Sloan back for the sake of his 'speed' and the Gutho injury forced the change, and atleast put an end to that concept for the 15th time its been tried (atleast I hope), actually something in the link above was talking that fullbacks need to run closer to the ruck now, not out wide like traditionally they did... be nice if Drinkie was here right now..

If Dylan goes left edge.. probably ryan right edge rather than Nick or Halangahu.. though could be the latter... would have thought Dylan would have been a better protector but he is also not fully fit.... but I think if Kade does play right, thats more about Kade taking control + Atkinson being out of form.. could also mean Kade does more of the kicking.. but I kind of like Atkinson doing a lot of that... he has a big boot its more that its just 1 less thing less on Kades shoulders.. hes already going to struggle to go 80mins.. also less chance of getting creamed mid kick..
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You missed the clues.
 
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