Round 10: St. George Illawarra v Newcastle

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redv13

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jodragon40 said:
Mate what I saw clearly on Anzac Day was:

1. The lack of go forward by our senior forwards, Guler, Kerr, Lawrie and a heavy reliance on our younger forwards, Couchmans, Stewart.

2. The lack of talk and communication between the players.

3. The lack of leadership on the field.

4. Players arguing with each other.

5. Unforced errors, dropped uncontested balls, misreads and missed tackles in defence.

6. A lack of support for the ball carrier in attack and a lack of attacking options and structures.

7. Poor completion rates whilst in possession, the lowest this season.

8. Lack of commitment and effort.

9. I did like what I saw of Reed in attack and his combination with Atkinson but he is trying to learn his trade in a team that is not competitive and has accepted defeat as being an inevitability.

10.I did not like Reeds defensive ability he is in my view a liability in that area of his game.

Hopefully our defensive coach turned into a head coach realises that he needs a minder on his weak side shoulder.

I certainly acknowledge that the refereeing was poor and certainly the 2nd sin bin was not warranted.

Players that I would select first in this weekend team T Couchman that kid never stopped trying. Closely followed by Stewart. Leilua then R Couchman and Cook tried but can't play 80 min.

There needs to be different attacking structures around our edge forwards Leilua in particular is too predictable.

I would have dropped Kerr, Guler and Lawrie in a heartbeat as punishment for their performances. In the backs Feigai and Sloan banished to ressies.

As a coach, new, interim or not it is your responsibility to make and take hard decisions you cant simply keep repeating what has now not worked for the last 11 games.

The only hindrance to making those decisions would be the quality and availability of the alternative players to fill those positions.

If there is no competition for positions then you will ultimately get the same performances and results.

Rant over time for dinner and a cold one or two.
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What’s for dinner??
 
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Justadragon

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redv13 said:
Tuck in mate. This club will kill all of us eventually, no doubting that haha. Everyone’s blood pressure is through the roof. Just need 1 bloody win, could snowball into more
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I'm glad there's blokes like you around and others as well. Every bloody year for nearly the last 16, its hope for the best and it ends up a nightmare. It is starting to wear thin, well I've seen juniors come and go, these ones havent really done anything but be part of a losing culture. I'm yet to feel confident about 2027. To start off with our marquee signing could arrive with a blown out knee, what a way to kick off preseason !!!
 
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Justadragon said:
I'm glad there's blokes like you around and others as well. Every bloody year for nearly the last 16, its hope for the best and it ends up a nightmare. It is starting to wear thin, well I've seen juniors come and go, these ones havent really done anything but be part of a losing culture. I'm yet to feel confident about 2027. To start off with our marquee signing could arrive with a blown out knee, what a way to kick off preseason !!!
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I’m in for the long haul mate, regardless of how bad the shit stinks. As jo says, I red eye, 1 white. Nothing will ever change that.
 
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George Sancti said:
It seems that Anzac Day tested everyone’s patience. Hard to imagine it getting much uglier than that.
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It depends what you mean by ugly. It was a horrible result, and a substandard performance, but it was far from our worst performance. Easts were very good and we copped 2 consecutive first half sin bins.
We played far worse, for example, in the Titans game. The only reason that game was close was that the Titans were probably even worse than us that day.
 
jodragon40

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puff said:
It depends what you mean by ugly. It was a horrible result, and a substandard performance, but it was far from our worst performance. Easts were very good and we copped 2 consecutive first half sin bins.
We played far worse, for example, in the Titans game. The only reason that game was close was that the Titans were probably even worse than us that day.
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Agree was at both games spot on assessment
 
GCRV

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puff said:
It depends what you mean by ugly. It was a horrible result, and a substandard performance, but it was far from our worst performance. Easts were very good and we copped 2 consecutive first half sin bins.
We played far worse, for example, in the Titans game. The only reason that game was close was that the Titans were probably even worse than us that day.
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jodragon40 said:
Agree was at both games spot on assessment
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That Titans game was the worst game I've seen in a long time.
 
Morgan

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Zen said:
I pray that Dean implements some kind of structural change that not only plays to our strengths, but matches the template Gardiner talks about here. Instead of the sweeping backline movements with Gutho as link man to our slow ponderous outside backs - switch the focus to the middle with our quick halves, our quick hookers, and use our powerful edge forwards as weapons to attack the A & B defenders.
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We have Storm and Dogs performing very different to last year with no real answer. Its very interesting when you see Tigers and Knights also reversing their fortunes. The modern game of this year with more speed and 6 agains is turning the game on its head. Does a modern coach look for speedsters and less bulky slow props, will the players eventually morph into one physique with boundless energy to last 80 minutes. Are we seeing forwards from the past like Mr perpetual Ray Price and Wayne Pearce show the way.

I think with Hamish Dylan Toby Ryan we are on the right trajectory it's now finding the centres and wingers with speed and x factor. The more I listen to Michael Cheika old interviews the more I feel he understands change and what's needed.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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dragonheart said:
We have Storm and Dogs performing very different to last year with no real answer. Its very interesting when you see Tigers and Knights also reversing their fortunes. The modern game of this year with more speed and 6 agains is turning the game on its head. Does a modern coach look for speedsters and less bulky slow props, will the players eventually morph into one physique with boundless energy to last 80 minutes. Are we seeing forwards from the past like Mr perpetual Ray Price and Wayne Pearce show the way.

I think with Hamish Dylan Toby Ryan we are on the right trajectory it's now finding the centres and wingers with speed and x factor. The more I listen to Michael Cheika old interviews the more I feel he understands change and what's needed.
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Our engine room moving forward will be the envy of the league. We need to find speed in the backline especially the wingers
 
Illusion

Illusion

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jodragon40 said:
Our engine room moving forward will be the envy of the league. We need to find speed in the backline especially the wingers
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Agree not too worried about the forwards it's the backs that are a worry , I'm ok to stick with Atichinson and Reed but as you say the wingers and centres are a worry compared to other teams Suli and Holmes just don't score tries and not as elusive and hard to stop as others ....... Suli has no step just runs in a straight line , so if you get to him before he builds up momentum you got him ...... Easier to stop than a guy that can step with speed ........
 
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Illusion said:
Agree not too worried about the forwards it's the backs that are a worry , I'm ok to stick with Atichinson and Reed but as you say the wingers and centres are a worry compared to other teams Suli and Holmes just don't score tries and not as elusive and hard to stop as others ....... Suli has no step just runs in a straight line , so if you get to him before he builds up momentum you got him ...... Easier to stop than a guy that can step with speed ........
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For some reason, I'd guess something to do with suiting Kyle, Flanno had Holmes playing on his non-favoured side. Not the side he played his whole career. We should expect Holmes to start improving a lot from this week. Suli, I just don't know. He runs hard but isn't elusive enough for a centre in today's game. Actually, probably never was. As for our wingers, disaster! What we could do with Jack Bostock and Reuban Garrick on the wings.
 
RedVHeartbeat

RedVHeartbeat

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getsmarty said:
ROUND 10
TEAM LIST		PLAYER PARTNER
1Clint GUTHERSON (c)Bill & Toni’s Restaurant
2Setu TUHWLE Lawyers
3Moses SULIKingsgrove Sports
4Valentine HOLMESFloormania
5Mathew FEAGAIDynamoney
6Daniel ATKINSONPorta Restaurant
7Kade REEDDynamic Syndications
8Emre GULERShire Steel & Fabrication
9Damien COOK (c)Remara
10Toby COUCHMANStadiacorp Facility Services
11Dylan EGANSt George Leagues Club
12Ryan COUCHMANReact Facility Solutions
13Hamish STEWARTJAC Motors
14Josh KERRWollongong City Jetski
15Loko Jnr PASIFIKI TONGAClassic Sportswear
16Blake LAWRIETripADeal
17Jacob HALANGAHUSquadron Energy
18Kyle FLANAGANDeicorp
19Tyrell SLOANGearbox
20Lyhkan KING-TOGIAi98FM
21Hame SELEWIN TV
22Christian TUIPULOTUSt George Venues

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After that humiliation on top of mediocre season form, Deano should have rubbed out permanently all those with a line thru their name. Then why hasnt he?...
 
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