Round 22 v Dolphins at the Gong

jodragon40

jodragon40

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TheRev said:
Dean did say thats why Hamish played edge.. so he could play more games/minutes without the workload of playing lock.. Egan missed 10 or so rounds also, hes probably OK, LPT started mid-season, so probably Couchies if anyone would be struggling.. thats probably happening because Kerr and Guler have been so dissapointing, thought we would have gotten lots more minutes out of em... def seems time to play some hutcho or webster instead... Nick also if he can put a few games together in cup.

Our injury situation rly isnt too bad this year (its mostly the depth players), esp vs last year where half our pack was gone, multiple ACL's early.. so quite dissapointing to only have 2 wins out of 2026.
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Been there, done that myself in playing my best and most promising players much longer than I really should have to make the team appear more competitive.

Also believing that showcasing them in ressies their chances of being promoted to 1sts would be enhanced.

It was a mistake then and it is a mistake now. The season is gone therefore its time to take better care of our youngest and brightest by reducing their minutes and blooding other players from ressies who are deserving of a crack at 1sts.

Its time the hc started to make the necessary decisions
 
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Dragon David

SGI NSW Cup
jodragon40 said:
Been there, done that myself in playing my best and most promising players much longer than I really should have to make the team appear more competitive.

Also believing that showcasing them in ressies their chances of being promoted to 1sts would be enhanced.

It was a mistake then and it is a mistake now. The season is gone therefore its time to take better care of our youngest and brightest by reducing their minutes and blooding other players from ressies who are deserving of a crack at 1sts.

Its time the hc started to make the necessary decisions
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As I said earlier, damn Young is desperado to win games so I really don't think that he will experiment and give those guys that need a break - that. The likes of the Couchies and Stewart and Egan etc will be selected, if fit, for the remaining games, I can see it. If they were given a rest, I can see those players and coaches of the clubs we still have to play rubbing their hands with glee so that they can thrash us and make us look totally embarrassed and get better for and against.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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Dragon David said:
As I said earlier, damn Young is desperado to win games so I really don't think that he will experiment and give those guys that need a break - that. The likes of the Couchies and Stewart and Egan etc will be selected, if fit, for the remaining games, I can see it. If they were given a rest, I can see those players and coaches of the clubs we still have to play rubbing their hands with glee so that they can thrash us and make us look totally embarrassed and get better for and against.
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A good coach would put the player, team and club before himself. I personally don't rate him but I would be interested to see how he reacts to last week's thrashing and the real possibility of two further thrashings in the coming weeks.

That will give me a guide to the measure of the man as a hc.
 
Eric

Eric

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  1. Clinton Gutherson
  2. Setu Tu
  3. Mathew Feagai
  4. Valentine Holmes
  5. Tyrell Sloan
  6. Daniel Atkinson
  7. Kyle Flanagan
  8. Loko Jnr Pasifiki Tonga
  9. Damien Cook
  10. Toby Couchman
  11. Dylan Egan
  12. Hamish Stewart
  13. Ryan Couchman

  14. Jacob Liddle
  15. Luciano Leilua
  16. Josh Kerr
  17. Jacob Halangahu
  18. Moses Suli
  19. Lyhkan King-Togia

  20. Emre Guler
  21. Christian Tuipulotu
  22. Jacob Webster
No changes. It's not as if the last placed team got hammered by the 2nd class. One thing we can say for the last 3 coaches, they have A LOT of loyalty to the side which keeps losing. Too early to say the same is true for Deano but the early symptoms are clear.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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Eric said:
  1. Clinton Gutherson
  2. Setu Tu
  3. Mathew Feagai
  4. Valentine Holmes
  5. Tyrell Sloan
  6. Daniel Atkinson
  7. Kyle Flanagan
  8. Loko Jnr Pasifiki Tonga
  9. Damien Cook
  10. Toby Couchman
  11. Dylan Egan
  12. Hamish Stewart
  13. Ryan Couchman

  14. Jacob Liddle
  15. Luciano Leilua
  16. Josh Kerr
  17. Jacob Halangahu
  18. Moses Suli
  19. Lyhkan King-Togia

  20. Emre Guler
  21. Christian Tuipulotu
  22. Jacob Webster
No changes. It's not as if the last placed team got hammered by the 2nd class. One thing we can say for the last 3 coaches, they have A LOT of loyalty to the side which keeps losing. Too early to say the same is true for Deano but the early symptoms are clear.
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I didn't rate Young prior to this and this just smacks as someone who is bereft of any ideas or thinking outside the box
 
J

Justadragon

SGI NSW Cup
jodragon40 said:
A good coach would put the player, team and club before himself. I personally don't rate him but I would be interested to see how he reacts to last week's thrashing and the real possibility of two further thrashings in the coming weeks.

That will give me a guide to the measure of the man as a hc.
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His reaction to last weeks game was “he didn’t see it coming” on that note I’ll rest my case.
 
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Dragon David

SGI NSW Cup
jodragon40 said:
Well there you go absolutely no changes made to our team v Dolphins unless
Mug Fan Mug Fan has any information. Very disappointing personally to me.
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As I said, Young will persist with the forwards and run them ragged. He is desperate for a win at the expense of resting any players. The one thing that he might do though is if things go awry early in the game and the Dolphins skip out to a 20 nil lead after 25 minutes, he might use the bench more and rest a few of the players and not leaving them on the field for as long as he has been.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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Dragon David said:
As I said, Young will persist with the forwards and run them ragged. He is desperate for a win at the expense of resting any players. The one thing that he might do though is if things go awry early in the game and the Dolphins skip out to a 20 nil lead after 25 minutes, he might use the bench more and rest a few of the players and not leaving them on the field for as long as he has been.
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Agree
 
Morgan

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
jodragon40 said:
Well there you go absolutely no changes made to our team v Dolphins unless
Mug Fan Mug Fan has any information. Very disappointing personally to me.
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Why would he change the team he has named? Is someone injured?
Eric said:
  1. Clinton Gutherson
  2. Setu Tu
  3. Mathew Feagai
  4. Valentine Holmes
  5. Tyrell Sloan
  6. Daniel Atkinson
  7. Kyle Flanagan
  8. Loko Jnr Pasifiki Tonga
  9. Damien Cook
  10. Toby Couchman
  11. Dylan Egan
  12. Hamish Stewart
  13. Ryan Couchman

  14. Jacob Liddle
  15. Luciano Leilua
  16. Josh Kerr
  17. Jacob Halangahu
  18. Moses Suli
  19. Lyhkan King-Togia

  20. Emre Guler
  21. Christian Tuipulotu
  22. Jacob Webster
No changes. It's not as if the last placed team got hammered by the 2nd class. One thing we can say for the last 3 coaches, they have A LOT of loyalty to the side which keeps losing. Too early to say the same is true for Deano but the early symptoms are clear.
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The worst thing about it is the lack of accountability. Why would clowns like Kyle and Atkinson strive to be better or LKT and others strive to play well in reserve grade when the former know they won't be dropped and latter know they won't be promoted? It's not that reserve grade players wouldn't strive to play well but the motivation is surely much diminished. Kyle and Atkinson might strive to play better but they both know like everyone else except Dean Young, they have no business in first grade.

If anyone was still on the fence about Dean Young, I present to you the game after he was announced and the (same) team he selected in response to that. As a coach, the guy is utterly clueless.
 
RufusRex

RufusRex

SGI NSW Cup
i mean this 19 is in the team picked

01. Gutherson
02. Sloan
03. Suli
04. Atkinson
05. Holmes
06. LKT
07. Flanagan
08. LPT
09. Cook
10. Toby
11. Egan
12. Stewart
13. Ryan

14. Liddle
15. Halangahu
16. Webster
17. Leilua

18. Feagai
19. Guler

20. Kerr
21. Tu
22. Tuipulotu
 
Morgan

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
RufusRex said:
i mean this 19 is in the team picked

01. Gutherson
02. Sloan
03. Suli
04. Atkinson
05. Holmes
06. LKT
07. Flanagan
08. LPT
09. Cook
10. Toby
11. Egan
12. Stewart
13. Ryan

14. Liddle
15. Halangahu
16. Webster
17. Leilua

18. Feagai
19. Guler

20. Kerr
21. Tu
22. Tuipulotu
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What have you seen in Atkinson's game to suggest he'd be a good centre?
 
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