Winter Olympics

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
Pretty slow around here on weekends. At least during the off season.
Anyone actually follow this? Not as if Australia is a winter sports superpower or a power at all. I don't even know why they bother. The guy who won the gold medal in the speed skating some years ago was more a national embarrassment than anything else. He was presented in the international media as "look at this idiot who actually won a gold medal". Anyway, it's here so lets see how it goes.

Amazing Opening Ceremony kicks off Beijing Winter Olympics​

President Xi Jinping declared the Beijing Winter Olympics open Friday as China tried to turn the page on a build-up overshadowed by human rights concerns, Covid and a US-led diplomatic boycott.

Fireworks exploded over the “Bird’s Nest” as the lattice-shaped stadium took centre stage, just as it did at the 2008 Games, as Beijing becomes the first city to host both a Summer and Winter Olympics.

Plenty of Australia’s 44-strong team marched through the stadium, while American Samoa’s flag bearer stole the show by appearing in a traditional outfit - topless - despite the freezing conditions.

Xi, under whose rule China has adopted a more muscular attitude internationally compared to 14 years ago, was given a rapturous welcome by the socially-distanced crowd wearing face masks, for what his ruling Communist Party hopes will be a soft-power triumph.

The ceremony was dazzling but less spectacular than the extravaganza 14 years ago. It got off to a solemn start when eight soldiers slow-marched with the Chinese flag, before the national anthem rang out into the cold night air.

At the end of the ceremony, the Olympic torch was secured to the centre of a giant snowflake, which was then illuminated to become the cauldron and hoisted above the stadium.

The United States, Britain, Canada and Australia are among countries staging a diplomatic boycott of the Games. Those nations’ athletes will still compete at the Games, which run until February 20 and are taking place inside a vast “closed loop” bubble designed to thwart the virus.

About a third of the 90,000-capacity “Bird’s Nest” was full, but like sports events at the Games, tickets were not sold to the public because of the pandemic. The show was masterminded by acclaimed Chinese film director Zhang Yimou, who was behind the 2008 extravaganza.

AUSTRALIA'S FLAGBEARERS
Aerial skier Laura Peel and figure skater Brendan Kerry carried the flag for Australia. It is the first time Australia has deployed dual flag-bearers at a Winter opening ceremony. But it comes after basketball star Patty Mills and swimmer Cate Campbell carried the flag at the Tokyo Summer Olympics. Kerry and Peel are both competing in their third Olympic Games.

‘GIVE PEACE A CHANCE’
After the teams marched into the arena, International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach appealed to “all political authorities across the globe”, urging them to “give peace a chance”. “In our fragile world, where division, conflict and mistrust are on the rise, we show the world -- yes, it is possible to be fierce rivals while at the same time living peacefully and respectfully together,” Bach said.

Despite the warm words and party atmosphere, the lead-up to the Games was clouded by controversy, including warnings about surveillance of athletes and what will happen to them if they make anti-China comments. Speaking in Beijing, American figure-skating coach and former Olympian Adam Rippon said he hoped the Games will bring added scrutiny.

“What I hope with these Games is that there is so much attention brought to these issues about human rights it does put pressure on the Chinese government to really address it,” Rippon, a bronze medallist at the 2018 Winter Games, told CNN.

There are also environmental concerns about holding a Winter Games in one of the driest places in China and on almost entirely man-made snow. Then there is Covid. The nearly 3,000 athletes and tens of thousands of support staff, volunteers and media have been cut off from Beijing’s general population.

China, where the virus emerged in late 2019, has pursued a no-nonsense zero-Covid policy and adopted the same approach to the Games, with everyone inside the bubble tested daily and required to wear a mask at all times.

There have been more than 300 Covid cases in the bubble, among them an unknown number of athletes. Some sports, such as curling and figure skating, have already begun and Saturday will see the first gold medal of the Games awarded, in cross-country skiing.

HEARTBREAK FOR AUSSIE CURLERS
Australia’s first-ever curling Olympians Tahli Gill and Dean Hewitt are on the brink of elimination after another heartbreaking loss in the Mixed Doubles. With 10 teams competing and the top four qualifying for the semi-finals, the 0-3 Aussies needed a big day against top contenders Sweden and Great Britain. But they fell just one point short of a miraculous comeback against heavyweights Sweden to begin the day.

Needing three points to tie the score and send it to additional ends, Gill’s last-ditch throw saw the Aussie claim two points, finishing 7-6 losers. Then the Aussies stormed back and took two points in the final end to force extras against the Brits but then lost 9-8 in overtime. Sitting 0-5 the Aussies must realistically win all of their remaining matches and then hope for the best to qualify for the semis.

Anyone watching this?
 

RedV01

SGI NSW Cup
Pretty slow around here on weekends. At least during the off season.
Anyone actually follow this? Not as if Australia is a winter sports superpower or a power at all. I don't even know why they bother. The guy who won the gold medal in the speed skating some years ago was more a national embarrassment than anything else. He was presented in the international media as "look at this idiot who actually won a gold medal". Anyway, it's here so lets see how it goes.

Amazing Opening Ceremony kicks off Beijing Winter Olympics​

President Xi Jinping declared the Beijing Winter Olympics open Friday as China tried to turn the page on a build-up overshadowed by human rights concerns, Covid and a US-led diplomatic boycott.

Fireworks exploded over the “Bird’s Nest” as the lattice-shaped stadium took centre stage, just as it did at the 2008 Games, as Beijing becomes the first city to host both a Summer and Winter Olympics.

Plenty of Australia’s 44-strong team marched through the stadium, while American Samoa’s flag bearer stole the show by appearing in a traditional outfit - topless - despite the freezing conditions.

Xi, under whose rule China has adopted a more muscular attitude internationally compared to 14 years ago, was given a rapturous welcome by the socially-distanced crowd wearing face masks, for what his ruling Communist Party hopes will be a soft-power triumph.

The ceremony was dazzling but less spectacular than the extravaganza 14 years ago. It got off to a solemn start when eight soldiers slow-marched with the Chinese flag, before the national anthem rang out into the cold night air.

At the end of the ceremony, the Olympic torch was secured to the centre of a giant snowflake, which was then illuminated to become the cauldron and hoisted above the stadium.

The United States, Britain, Canada and Australia are among countries staging a diplomatic boycott of the Games. Those nations’ athletes will still compete at the Games, which run until February 20 and are taking place inside a vast “closed loop” bubble designed to thwart the virus.

About a third of the 90,000-capacity “Bird’s Nest” was full, but like sports events at the Games, tickets were not sold to the public because of the pandemic. The show was masterminded by acclaimed Chinese film director Zhang Yimou, who was behind the 2008 extravaganza.

AUSTRALIA'S FLAGBEARERS
Aerial skier Laura Peel and figure skater Brendan Kerry carried the flag for Australia. It is the first time Australia has deployed dual flag-bearers at a Winter opening ceremony. But it comes after basketball star Patty Mills and swimmer Cate Campbell carried the flag at the Tokyo Summer Olympics. Kerry and Peel are both competing in their third Olympic Games.

‘GIVE PEACE A CHANCE’
After the teams marched into the arena, International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach appealed to “all political authorities across the globe”, urging them to “give peace a chance”. “In our fragile world, where division, conflict and mistrust are on the rise, we show the world -- yes, it is possible to be fierce rivals while at the same time living peacefully and respectfully together,” Bach said.

Despite the warm words and party atmosphere, the lead-up to the Games was clouded by controversy, including warnings about surveillance of athletes and what will happen to them if they make anti-China comments. Speaking in Beijing, American figure-skating coach and former Olympian Adam Rippon said he hoped the Games will bring added scrutiny.

“What I hope with these Games is that there is so much attention brought to these issues about human rights it does put pressure on the Chinese government to really address it,” Rippon, a bronze medallist at the 2018 Winter Games, told CNN.

There are also environmental concerns about holding a Winter Games in one of the driest places in China and on almost entirely man-made snow. Then there is Covid. The nearly 3,000 athletes and tens of thousands of support staff, volunteers and media have been cut off from Beijing’s general population.

China, where the virus emerged in late 2019, has pursued a no-nonsense zero-Covid policy and adopted the same approach to the Games, with everyone inside the bubble tested daily and required to wear a mask at all times.

There have been more than 300 Covid cases in the bubble, among them an unknown number of athletes. Some sports, such as curling and figure skating, have already begun and Saturday will see the first gold medal of the Games awarded, in cross-country skiing.

HEARTBREAK FOR AUSSIE CURLERS
Australia’s first-ever curling Olympians Tahli Gill and Dean Hewitt are on the brink of elimination after another heartbreaking loss in the Mixed Doubles. With 10 teams competing and the top four qualifying for the semi-finals, the 0-3 Aussies needed a big day against top contenders Sweden and Great Britain. But they fell just one point short of a miraculous comeback against heavyweights Sweden to begin the day.

Needing three points to tie the score and send it to additional ends, Gill’s last-ditch throw saw the Aussie claim two points, finishing 7-6 losers. Then the Aussies stormed back and took two points in the final end to force extras against the Brits but then lost 9-8 in overtime. Sitting 0-5 the Aussies must realistically win all of their remaining matches and then hope for the best to qualify for the semis.

Anyone watching this?
What happened to the guy who won a gold medal? Except for that.
 

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
What happened to the guy who won a gold medal? Except for that.
You aren't familiar?

In the speed skating because it's popular in only a few countries, they limit each country to only 2 entrants. That's how the Australian even got into the event. I think it was 4 races. Heat, quarterfinal, semifinal, final. In each race he was coming last by some distance when the rest of the entrants were wiped out in falls.

The international media was having a lot of fun with it. The IOC threatened to discontinue the event it was so farcical.
 

GCRV

SGI NSW Cup
You aren't familiar?

In the speed skating because it's popular in only a few countries, they limit each country to only 2 entrants. That's how the Australian even got into the event. I think it was 4 races. Heat, quarterfinal, semifinal, final. In each race he was coming last by some distance when the rest of the entrants were wiped out in falls.

The international media was having a lot of fun with it. The IOC threatened to discontinue the event it was so farcical.
I didn't see it at the time but I heard about it sometime afterward.
 

Chris M

SGI NSW Cup
Pretty slow around here on weekends. At least during the off season.
Anyone actually follow this? Not as if Australia is a winter sports superpower or a power at all. I don't even know why they bother. The guy who won the gold medal in the speed skating some years ago was more a national embarrassment than anything else. He was presented in the international media as "look at this idiot who actually won a gold medal". Anyway, it's here so lets see how it goes.

Amazing Opening Ceremony begins Beijing Winter Olympics​

President Xi Jinping declared the Beijing Winter Olympics open Friday as China tried to turn the page on a build-up overshadowed by human rights concerns, Covid and a US-led diplomatic boycott.

Fireworks exploded over the “Bird’s Nest” as the lattice-shaped stadium took centre stage, just as it did at the 2008 Games, as Beijing becomes the first city to host both a Summer and Winter Olympics.

Plenty of Australia’s 44-strong team marched through the stadium, while American Samoa’s flag bearer stole the show by appearing in a traditional outfit - topless - despite the freezing conditions.

Xi, under whose rule China has adopted a more muscular attitude internationally compared to 14 years ago, was given a rapturous welcome by the socially-distanced crowd wearing face masks, for what his ruling Communist Party hopes will be a soft-power triumph.

The ceremony was dazzling but less spectacular than the extravaganza 14 years ago. It got off to a solemn start when eight soldiers slow-marched with the Chinese flag, before the national anthem rang out into the cold night air.

At the end of the ceremony, the Olympic torch was secured to the centre of a giant snowflake, which was then illuminated to become the cauldron and hoisted above the stadium.

The United States, Britain, Canada and Australia are among countries staging a diplomatic boycott of the Games. Those nations’ athletes will still compete at the Games, which run until February 20 and are taking place inside a vast “closed loop” bubble designed to thwart the virus.

About a third of the 90,000-capacity “Bird’s Nest” was full, but like sports events at the Games, tickets were not sold to the public because of the pandemic. The show was masterminded by acclaimed Chinese film director Zhang Yimou, who was behind the 2008 extravaganza.

AUSTRALIAN FLAGBEARERS
Aerial skier Laura Peel and figure skater Brendan Kerry carried the flag for Australia. It is the first time Australia has deployed dual flag-bearers at a Winter opening ceremony. But it comes after basketball star Patty Mills and swimmer Cate Campbell carried the flag at the Tokyo Summer Olympics. Kerry and Peel are both competing in their third Olympic Games.

‘GIVE PEACE A CHANCE’
After the teams marched into the arena, International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach appealed to “all political authorities across the globe”, urging them to “give peace a chance”. “In our fragile world, where division, conflict and mistrust are on the rise, we show the world -- yes, it is possible to be fierce rivals while at the same time living peacefully and respectfully together,” Bach said.

Despite the warm words and party atmosphere, the lead-up to the Games was clouded by controversy, including warnings about surveillance of athletes and what will happen to them if they make anti-China comments. Speaking in Beijing, American figure-skating coach and former Olympian Adam Rippon said he hoped the Games will bring added scrutiny.

“What I hope with these Games is that there is so much attention brought to these issues about human rights it does put pressure on the Chinese government to really address it,” Rippon, a bronze medallist at the 2018 Winter Games, told CNN.

There are also environmental concerns about holding a Winter Games in one of the driest places in China and on almost entirely man-made snow. Then there is Covid. The nearly 3,000 athletes and tens of thousands of support staff, volunteers and media have been cut off from Beijing’s general population.

China, where the virus emerged in late 2019, has pursued a no-nonsense zero-Covid policy and adopted the same approach to the Games, with everyone inside the bubble tested daily and required to wear a mask at all times.

There have been more than 300 Covid cases in the bubble, among them an unknown number of athletes. Some sports, such as curling and figure skating, have already begun and Saturday will see the first gold medal of the Games awarded, in cross-country skiing.

HEARTBREAK FOR AUSSIE CURLERS
Australia’s first-ever curling Olympians Tahli Gill and Dean Hewitt are on the brink of elimination after another heartbreaking loss in the Mixed Doubles. With 10 teams competing and the top four qualifying for the semi-finals, the 0-3 Aussies needed a big day against top contenders Sweden and Great Britain. But they fell just one point short of a miraculous comeback against heavyweights Sweden to begin the day.

Needing three points to tie the score and send it to additional ends, Gill’s last-ditch throw saw the Aussie claim two points, finishing 7-6 losers. Then the Aussies stormed back and took two points in the final end to force extras against the Brits but then lost 9-8 in overtime. Sitting 0-5 the Aussies must realistically win all of their remaining matches and then hope for the best to qualify for the semis.

Anyone watching this?
I like the Alpine skiing.
 

Chris M

SGI NSW Cup
Anyone else following this Russian skaters saga:
Russian teenager Kamila Valieva has been cleared to compete in the women's figure skating competition at the Winter Olympics despite failing a pre-Games drug test, setting her up for an attempt at a second gold medal.

Whatever happens on the ice, Valieva will not get a medal ceremony moment in Beijing. Nor will any skater who finishes in the top three with her.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport cleared Valieva to skate less than 12 hours after a hastily arranged hearing that lasted into early Monday morning. A panel of judges ruled that the 15-year-old Valieva, the favorite for the women’s individual gold, does not need to be provisionally suspended ahead of a full investigation.
Something rotten in the state of Denmark!

Firstly it's not even a PED. It's banned due to something about the possibility it might help competitors relax after an event of training. Same reason weed is banned. Debatable whether it should be on the banned list. Should beer be on the banned list as well?

The crux of the situation is that previously 2 Russian bobsledders were banned for using it along with Maria Sharapova. On appeal the bobsledders cut a deal with WADA to have the penalty reduced from 4 years to 8 months of time already served.

So for a drug which isn't a PED and for which Russians have been known to take previously, what possible logical reason would she have to take it? And why did it take 6 weeks as opposed to the normal few days? And why, despite being extensively tested, hasn't the drug showed up in any other samples?

Seems to me someone tainted the test.
 

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
Anyone else following this Russian skaters saga:

Something rotten in the state of Denmark!

Firstly it's not even a PED. It's banned due to something about the possibility it might help competitors relax after an event of training. Same reason weed is banned. Debatable whether it should be on the banned list. Should beer be on the banned list as well?

The crux of the situation is that previously 2 Russian bobsledders were banned for using it along with Maria Sharapova. On appeal the bobsledders cut a deal with WADA to have the penalty reduced from 4 years to 8 months of time already served.

So for a drug which isn't a PED and for which Russians have been known to take previously, what possible logical reason would she have to take it? And why did it take 6 weeks as opposed to the normal few days? And why, despite being extensively tested, hasn't the drug showed up in any other samples?

Seems to me someone tainted the test.
The only thing that is certain is that the Olympics is massively political. Always has been. Every single time, summer or winter Olympics, there is an outcry about judging.

That's the case for the NRL as well. Specially in rep team selection. Over the last 10 years, if there is nothing between a St George player and a Sydney Rorters player, the Rorter will get the nod every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Players know it so they go there for less knowing it'll be made up for and then some by selection in rep teams. And if it's not, the $500 taxi rides a few kms home from the team BBQ will do the trick.

But as far as this thing with Miss Valieva, definitely something strange going on. I just read a tweet from a former doping official. He said it's utterly incomprehensible for her to be tested on December 25th but not have the sample analyzed until February 8th.
 

Eric

Moderator
The only thing that is certain is that the Olympics is massively political. Always has been. Every single time, summer or winter Olympics, there is an outcry about judging.

That's the case for the NRL as well. Specially in rep team selection. Over the last 10 years, if there is nothing between a St George player and a Sydney Rorters player, the Rorter will get the nod every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Players know it so they go there for less knowing it'll be made up for and then some by selection in rep teams. And if it's not, the $500 taxi rides a few kms home from the team BBQ will do the trick.

But as far as this thing with Miss Valieva, definitely something strange going on. I just read a tweet from a former doping official. He said it's utterly incomprehensible for her to be tested on December 25th but not have the sample analyzed until February 8th.
I don't agree with that at all. Unless a Dragons player is far ahead of a Rorters player, the Rorters player will get the nod for rep teams.
 

GCRV

SGI NSW Cup
Anyone else following this Russian skaters saga:

Something rotten in the state of Denmark!

Firstly it's not even a PED. It's banned due to something about the possibility it might help competitors relax after an event of training. Same reason weed is banned. Debatable whether it should be on the banned list. Should beer be on the banned list as well?

The crux of the situation is that previously 2 Russian bobsledders were banned for using it along with Maria Sharapova. On appeal the bobsledders cut a deal with WADA to have the penalty reduced from 4 years to 8 months of time already served.

So for a drug which isn't a PED and for which Russians have been known to take previously, what possible logical reason would she have to take it? And why did it take 6 weeks as opposed to the normal few days? And why, despite being extensively tested, hasn't the drug showed up in any other samples?

Seems to me someone tainted the test.
The only thing that is certain is that the Olympics is massively political. Always has been. Every single time, summer or winter Olympics, there is an outcry about judging.

That's the case for the NRL as well. Specially in rep team selection. Over the last 10 years, if there is nothing between a St George player and a Sydney Rorters player, the Rorter will get the nod every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Players know it so they go there for less knowing it'll be made up for and then some by selection in rep teams. And if it's not, the $500 taxi rides a few kms home from the team BBQ will do the trick.

But as far as this thing with Miss Valieva, definitely something strange going on. I just read a tweet from a former doping official. He said it's utterly incomprehensible for her to be tested on December 25th but not have the sample analyzed until February 8th.
Don't know about the Russian skater. She is too young to be considered hot. Something which can't be said of her compatriots and the other Asian American skaters.

Absolutely true about the Sydney Rorters. They have scams on top of scams.
 

Eric

Moderator
Don't know about the Russian skater. She is too young to be considered hot. Something which can't be said of her compatriots and the other Asian American skaters.

Absolutely true about the Sydney Rorters. They have scams on top of scams.
Sydney Rorters existence for the past 15-odd years has been a scam. Now apparently they are preparing to throw a mil a year at Payne Haas. After they blew other teams out of the water with Brandon Smith. Retained Manu despite big money offers from elsewhere. Tedesco has already been poached. So in 2 years you can expect they'll let him go and sign the best young fullback from another club "with Tedesco money".

As for the Russian skater, seems like political games. Personally I wish her the best and hope she wins all the gold medals she was expected to win.
 

RedVHeartbeat

SGI NSW Cup
No Summer Olympic thread. Remind me to make one when next Olympics comes round.
To say I am an Olympic nuffie is an understatement, since seeing the Millenium Sydney Games live as the wife worked for one of the major sponsors. No way could we have afforded, the four star accomodation, tickets to most major events and the free transport to and from the Olympic Stadium. The Sydney games is etched in my memory as my greatest ever sporting event. Loved the Tokyo 2020 event too.
 
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