jodragon40
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Saw the majority of those mentioned play. You can add Mitch Brennan and Michael Soridimi to the list of speedsters especially Brennan he was grease lightning.
2025 Season - The season that was
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Dragon David
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Agreed, Jo. There are several no doubt that we haven't acknowledged but in general then, we know what we had and we know what we need so I really hope that one day we will again have a team of at least 4-5 speedsters - fullback, centre, wing and halfback, plus some good running second rowers to boot.
I just love us scoring blistering tries. If we have these guys, the crowds will swell because we will be leading the comp.
The heart and soul will be with the dragons. No matter where they're located. If you live in the past, you'll be stuck in the past & have no future. Respect the past, learn from it & build for the future.
Right now we're getting left behind by the bigger clubs. Things need to change for our future. Both on & off-field.
Justadragon
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Fans are tired of the same shit every year, with the same excuses, for a club like this to finish in the positions on the ladder we have for the last 15 years is disgraceful, no matter who the players or which coach, its rinse and repeat, f$#king disgusting. Lets stop with the excuses and call it out for what it is !!! Watsford Flanno and DA are in it up to their necks, including the world famous board, if the crowd numbers aren't an indication of how this club is going then I dont know what is. The management has a shitload of work to do !!!
Justadragon
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The St George side of the board will never let that happen.
jodragon40
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D Dave03 That throw away line is well trodden. Kogarah Jubilee oval will always be the Dragons sacred acre. It would be a mistake in my view to use it sparingly, you can't alienate your Sydney based supporters.
Furthermore whether this is right or wrong, I have been reliably informed that the distance between Sydney and the Gong has meant we have actually missed out on players signatures.
Perhaps others on the forum could give credence to that or dismiss it,
Mug Fan is a reliable source but may not wish to comment. There is another well known saying, " Never forget where you come from and where your roots lie". Time will tell if I live in the past.
RedV01
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Training out of the Gong but splitting games works. Bad coaches and bad recruitment is the reason for the bad results.D Dave03 That throw away line is well trodden. Kogarah Jubilee oval will always be the Dragons sacred acre. It would be a mistake in my view to use it sparingly, you can't alienate your Sydney based supporters.
Furthermore whether this is right or wrong, I have been reliably informed that the distance between Sydney and the Gong has meant we have actually missed out on players signatures.
Perhaps others on the forum could give credence to that or dismiss it,
There is another well known saying, " Never forget where you come from and where your roots lie". Time will tell if I live in the past.
jodragon40
Staff
Don't know if I would consider a premiership winning coach as a bad coach, just me
RedV01
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PED and salary cap tainted premiership. He's been piss poor over the last 2 years. I hope and think he can begin to turn it around next year.
George Sancti
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Although I now fall into the dinosaur category, like you Jodragon40, I remain deeply proud of the history and traditions of St George. That legacy is unmatched, both in its contribution to the game and in the loyalty of its supporters. Across Sydney, and I believe across the nation, St George fans continue to support the club (many silently), waiting for the moment we break into the top four once again.
At the same time, I’ve embraced the amalgamation with Illawarra. This partnership has not only expanded our footprint but has significantly strengthened our supporter base and junior development pathways. Most importantly, Illawarra has genuinely invested in the St George Illawarra alliance. I recently spent time in the region and was struck by the passion and commitment among the local supporters.
It’s increasingly clear that the future of our football club, including its management, will be based in the Illawarra. This shift will elevate the club’s profile locally and position us for further growth. Should the region become a swing electorate, we may be just one government grant away from transforming WIN Stadium into a Tier 1 venue. At that point, it may be prudent to reassess how games are distributed between our two regions.
As for our neighbours to the south/north, history suggests that Cronulla may once again face financial collapse, resulting in the club filing for bankruptcy and exiting the Rugby League landscape. Should that occur, their district will naturally evolve into a feeder zone for the mighty St George Illawarra Dragons. We will then need to consider what we will do with Shark Park.
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Ryan
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Shark Park will be sold off to Sharks creditors.
Justadragon
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I thought the scum were actually doing well financially.
Ryan
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They aren't. Incompetence and a board lining it's own pockets to what was already a loss making football dept has them in trouble again.
Edward
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As a general rule, it seems when Sharks are doing well, Dragons are doing badly and vice versa. But even when we are doing badly on and off the field, it's about the same or better than them off the field. So you could say their future is in our hands. Should strangle them, then take them out and feed the remains to the Sharks they are so fond of. Having the entire area uninterrupted from Sydney airport to Shoalhaven would be the making of a NRL superpower.
Dragon David
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This is something that I have copied and pasted from the internet.
"CODE NRL
29 March 2024 ·
Shrewd investments by the current Cronulla board and management in property and land have set up the Sharks to be in their strongest financial position in the club’s 57-year history. The purchase of Kareela golf club, which included 12,065 square metres of land for $4.6 million in 2020, is delivering an extra $1 million in profit annually.
The potential for development of the land is real, with an independent evaluation of the land estimated at $12.7 million. The Sharks have also purchased a 562 sqm retail/commercial freehold building in the main street of Cronulla.
The huge fly in the ointment for the Sharks is the long overdue completion of their $750 million leagues club development on the land they own adjacent to Shark Park. Broken promises from the developer and builder have led to the inordinate delay and cost blowouts by $30 million, with no finish line in sight.
The longer the club remains unfinished, the longer the financial pain will deepen for the Sharks, particularly with being unable to trade on game days. Easing the pain is a new relationship with US-based billionaire and tragic Sharks fan Mike Dorrell, who recently handed a $5 million donation to the club."
So what George Sancti has said viz -
"As for our neighbours to the south/north, history suggests that Cronulla may once again face financial collapse, resulting in the club filing for bankruptcy and exiting the Rugby League landscape. Should that occur, their district will naturally evolve into a feeder zone for the mighty St George Illawarra Dragons. We will then need to consider what we will do with Shark Park."
Will the Sharks face financial collapse mainly because of the over-run of the building of the Sharks new Leagues Club and some other factors I am not sure of?
Edward
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Property investments are very, very far from money in the bank. And the money they are losing due to Sharks Park being such a dump and the club being closed dwarfs that 1m in profit from the golf club and 5m "donation". I hope so anyway.This is something that I have copied and pasted from the internet.
"CODE NRL
29 March 2024 ·
NRL RICH LIST: SHARKS
Shrewd investments by the current Cronulla board and management in property and land have set up the Sharks to be in their strongest financial position in the club’s 57-year history. The purchase of Kareela golf club, which included 12,065 square metres of land for $4.6 million in 2020, is delivering an extra $1 million in profit annually.
The potential for development of the land is real, with an independent evaluation of the land estimated at $12.7 million. The Sharks have also purchased a 562 sqm retail/commercial freehold building in the main street of Cronulla.
The huge fly in the ointment for the Sharks is the long overdue completion of their $750 million leagues club development on the land they own adjacent to Shark Park. Broken promises from the developer and builder have led to the inordinate delay and cost blowouts by $30 million, with no finish line in sight.
The longer the club remains unfinished, the longer the financial pain will deepen for the Sharks, particularly with being unable to trade on game days. Easing the pain is a new relationship with US-based billionaire and tragic Sharks fan Mike Dorrell, who recently handed a $5 million donation to the club."
So what George Sancti has said viz -
"As for our neighbours to the south/north, history suggests that Cronulla may once again face financial collapse, resulting in the club filing for bankruptcy and exiting the Rugby League landscape. Should that occur, their district will naturally evolve into a feeder zone for the mighty St George Illawarra Dragons. We will then need to consider what we will do with Shark Park."
Will the Sharks face financial collapse mainly because of the over-run of the building of the Sharks new Leagues Club and some other factors I am not sure of?
GCRV
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Do they play 6 at Kogarah now? If Woolongong was going to host more games, might have to upgrade the ground. Or tear it down and build a new one in a much more suitable location inland. In the long run, the government would make money by moving it inland and selling the land to developers. Or leasing it out.
Dragon David
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They played 6 at Kogarah and 6 at WIN in 2025, plus 12 away games.
I know historically the Dragons is synonymous with the Kogarah - Jubilee Stadium locale from 1950 - 1985 and then 1989 - 1998. That's where their home games, as the St George Dragons, were played and that's where the crowds would have been in their high numbers during the period of our historic 11 premierships in a row from 1956 to1966.
So this should not be lost and I am sure that those involved in the Football operations would have investigated pretty thoroughly on the best locality that the games should be played at and that is 6 at Kogarah and 6 at WIN.
As the St George Dragons, they played a year of home games at Redfern Oval in 1985 and the Sydney Cricket Ground from 1986 - 1987 and Belmore Oval in 1988 before returning back to Kogarah in 1989.
When the St George Dragons merged with the Illawarra Steelers in 1999, their home ground games were played 6 at Kogarah and 6 at WIN and nothing virtually has changed.
As the St George Dragons did play at other grounds as indicated above over several years - moreso the SCG, I am just wondering if the Football Operations of the Dragons should look at all our home games being played at WIN Stadium for a couple of seasons once the C of E is finished and see how things go. I think it is worth a try and yes get some improvements done to the ground etc.
GCRV
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What are the demographic trends or forecasts in Wollongong? Large population increase? Being right on the coast as it is, only so much they can do to expand the facility. Maybe the solution would be to build a new stadium close to the M1 near Thirroul. Easy commute for both sides of the joint venture.