2025 Round 1 team

Chris M

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imo no point predicting the left winger, see who looks the goods over the preseason, CTui, Sloan, Allan, Feagai, Ramsey, all could compete for it in theory.. if we dont sign JAC or a rugby player etc. I am assuming SFinau is right wing (though he can play either iirc).

Allan in particular I still think is a complete unknown.. I havent seen him play in years..

But also Allan/Feagai/Ramsey are our only centre depth coverage, so maybe they are better off focussing on those positions...
I read somewhere Ramsey is going to be medically retired. Or at least miss all of next season as well.
 

TheRev

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I read somewhere Ramsey is going to be medically retired. Or at least miss all of next season as well.
Its interesting.. keep hearing both sides.. my best guess was they wont make a call until 2025, he gets 1 pre-season, and can test him in some nsw cup..

But we rly do need a couple of Top30 spots back asap.. so if he really is no chance.. then doing it sooner means we can sign the Douiehi etc..

I did feel that the whole 2025 deadline was unnecessary... why have any deadlines.. maybe 2026 would be better.. maybe another year wont rly help.. no idea..
 

Edward

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Its interesting.. keep hearing both sides.. my best guess was they wont make a call until 2025, he gets 1 pre-season, and can test him in some nsw cup..

But we rly do need a couple of Top30 spots back asap.. so if he really is no chance.. then doing it sooner means we can sign the Douiehi etc..

I did feel that the whole 2025 deadline was unnecessary... why have any deadlines.. maybe 2026 would be better.. maybe another year wont rly help.. no idea..
Often times, when someone, particularly a young person gets over serious illness, their physical condition bounces back to be better than ever. Cody might come back 10kgs heavier and even a bit faster. Which would make him possibly a gun winger or centre. Don't think he has good enough ball skills to be a top fullback.
 
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Just a Mug Fan

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The Ramsey situation is difficult on many levels.
As I have reported before he has increased his training and contact through the season.

He may be able to play some kind of football next year but can he play for 80min, can he play every week, can he play NRL. I would suspect no.

His condition makes it hard for him to eat and digest food that gives you bulk so he will always have trouble gaining weight.

Top 30 last I spoke to Webb the club was in talks to have him removed from top 30.
The big issue is we can't medically retire him because that ends his chance of ever playing.
So it's up to NRL to approve a deal where we still pay hom from club money.
 

Eric

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The Ramsey situation is difficult on many levels.
As I have reported before he has increased his training and contact through the season.

He may be able to play some kind of football next year but can he play for 80min, can he play every week, can he play NRL. I would suspect no.

His condition makes it hard for him to eat and digest food that gives you bulk so he will always have trouble gaining weight.

Top 30 last I spoke to Webb the club was in talks to have him removed from top 30.
The big issue is we can't medically retire him because that ends his chance of ever playing.
So it's up to NRL to approve a deal where we still pay hom from club money.
Nice the club looks after him financially. Hopefully that will and should give the club good credibility in the player market.
 

RedVHeartbeat

SGI NSW Cup
  1. Tyrell Sloan
  2. Christian Tuipulotu (hope not. He should be training to play prop) AGREE
  3. Valentine Holmes
  4. Moses Suli
  5. Mat Feagai (no) Sione Finau
  6. Kyle Flanagan (If he just catches and passes or runs himself without looking like passing but doesn't make many mistakes, Flanno will pick him.)
  7. Ben Hunt--Sayonara sook Give us a decent replacement BOD.
  8. Damien Cook- Liddle shud start, one of our best last season
  9. Jack de Belin- prefer Jack was back at lock
  10. Luciano Leilua- only if he has shed some kilos
  11. Jaydn Su’A
  12. Blake Lawrie (Funny joke. Toby C will be 13 and Ryan C 17. Lawrie will be in Cup.)
  13. Jacob Liddle - Cook
  14. Hame Sele
  15. Raymond Faitala-Mariner (I hope it's LPT or Stewart or Latu or Halaganhu but judging from Flanno's first year, it'll be RFM) Doubt Loko Jr or Finau Latu will even play before the first 15 games, if at all. Jake is a year

  1. Toby Couchman- need to find room in the starting 13 for Toby. Ryan at #17.


  1. Toby Couchman- need to find room in the starting 13 for Toby. Ryan at #17.




  1. Luciano Leilua- only if he has shed some kilos
  2. Jaydn Su’A
  3. Blake Lawrie (Funny joke. Toby C will be 13 and Ryan C 17. Lawrie will be in Cup.)
  4. Jacob Liddle - Cook
  5. Hame Sele
  6. Raymond Faitala-Mariner (I hope it's LPT or Stewart or Latu or Halaganhu but judging from Flanno's first year, it'll be RFM) Doubt Loko Jr or Finau Latu will even play before the first 15 games, if at all. Jake is a year behind them. Blake Lawrie probably.
  7. Toby Couchman- need to find room in the starting 13 for Toby. Ryan at #17.
 
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Chris M

SGI NSW Cup

BUST SIGNINGS

KYLE FLANAGAN (Bulldogs to Dragons)

Like the Dragons, Flanagan had a solid season, but he hardly lit the house on fire as a playmaker alongside Ben Hunt.

The 26-year-old showed promise at the Bulldogs after being switched to dummyhalf, but his return to the halves under dad Shane Flanagan in the five-eighth role wasn’t exactly a raging success.

Hunt has carried the playmaking duties at the Dragons on his own for years and despite some good moments from Flanagan, he largely had to do the same in 2024.

Hunt finished with the most try assists in the NRL with 34, while Flanagan had just five in 20 games in 2024 to go with five tries, six linebreaks and 20 tackle busts.

The fact the club are even considering not extending Hunt is borderline negligent, given the other halves options they have on their books.

Flanagan’s season finished on a sour note as he was suspended for biting Bulldogs skipper Stephen Crichton.

Flanagan’s best position is hooker and he is a better runner of the football than a playmaker, so the Dragons would be wise to switch him back to dummyhalf and go to market for a playmaker.

Someone in the media finally said it. But he will start round 1 in the halves. Flanno will make sure of it.
 

Chris M

SGI NSW Cup
Time to update this:
  1. Gutho
  2. Lawson
  3. Suli
  4. Holmes
  5. Finau
  6. LKT
  7. Flanagan
  8. CT
  9. Cook
  10. JDB
  11. Luciano
  12. Su'A
  13. Egan

  14. Couchman
  15. Couchman
  16. Sele
  17. Liddle

  18. Stewart

Halfback is a huge issue. CT to play prop. Why not? He's bigger than about half of props. Will probably run out of gas quickly but with JDB, Egan and both Couchmans able to play a lot of minutes, why not? I'm so sick of Frank Molo. Plays one good game a year. Give him a run in NSW Cup and see if that won't fire him up a bit.
 

AyiosYiorgos

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Why? Seems like just what we need on the wing. From the highlights I've seen, reminds me a bit of Melbournes winger they got from NZ Rugby.
I just don't think a 7's union player who hasn't played NRL before will be picked on the wing in rd1, he will need to learn, the nuance of defending, where to be on the field on any given tackle and position on the field, need to get accustomed to tackling, running into defence on hit ups, get a feel for the game, he doesn't need to have L plates on in 1st grade, he can learn in KOE cup, i expect he will get a run in the trials, but as i said i highly doubt he is on the wing in rd 1
 

Chris M

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I just don't think a 7's union player who hasn't played NRL before will be picked on the wing in rd1, he will need to learn, the nuance of defending, where to be on the field on any given tackle and position on the field, need to get accustomed to tackling, running into defence on hit ups, get a feel for the game, he doesn't need to have L plates on in 1st grade, he can learn in KOE cup, i expect he will get a run in the trials, but as i said i highly doubt he is on the wing in rd 1
He hasn't played just 7s. It's just that he excelled in 7s more than regular rugby.
 

Chris M

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Hopefully Kyles rips off Crichtons nose this time...
Dogs are going to be very beatable. Not among the top teams. But as for Kyle, if he is in the team on a regular basis throughout the season, we are in trouble. Need to get used to picking LKT from round 1. That's the first thing. Then there is the halfback problem. Is it a problem Flanno doesn't want to solve because he wants there to be no choice but Kyle?
 

Dave03

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Dogs are going to be very beatable. Not among the top teams. But as for Kyle, if he is in the team on a regular basis throughout the season, we are in trouble. Need to get used to picking LKT from round 1. That's the first thing. Then there is the halfback problem. Is it a problem Flanno doesn't want to solve because he wants there to be no choice but Kyle?

Stop crying about Kyle & pushing some nepotism reasoning. Everyone gets your opinion on Kyle but it's getting tiresome now. 10 out of 11 wins came with Kyle in the team, he must be doing something right...
 

Chris M

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Stop crying about Kyle & pushing some nepotism reasoning. Everyone gets your opinion on Kyle but it's getting tiresome now. 10 out of 11 wins came with Kyle in the team, he must be doing something right...
You wouldn't believe how tiresome I find people still saying he should be in the team. It's 100%, beyond any doubt nepotism. You saw all the clubs vying for his signature before Flanno was signed to be coach of the Dragons? I didn't. You saw Flanno talking about Zacs poor stats. You saw Sloan get dropped after that (winning game) vs the Broncos? You saw how Kyle played against the Roosters in the Anzac Day game? You saw his stats week in week out? It is 100% beyond any doubt nepotism and makes me very frustrated.
 

AyiosYiorgos

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You wouldn't believe how tiresome I find people still saying he should be in the team. It's 100%, beyond any doubt nepotism. You saw all the clubs vying for his signature before Flanno was signed to be coach of the Dragons? I didn't. You saw Flanno talking about Zacs poor stats. You saw Sloan get dropped after that (winning game) vs the Broncos? You saw how Kyle played against the Roosters in the Anzac Day game? You saw his stats week in week out? It is 100% beyond any doubt nepotism and makes me very frustrated.
You can't single Kyle for that Anzac Day game
 

Chris M

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You can't single Kyle for that Anzac Day game
Both games against the Roosters last season. When he was moved on from there, he publicly questioned the coaches judgement. I guess it fired them up to target him. 2 hard days for him and he didn't get much help from his forwards. Or the big outside backs. Or his halves partner. I can forgive a bad game or two. It's a team sport and more often or not, players have bad games due to those around him not doing his job. Sloan against the Broncos for example. If tackles hadn't been missed in the front line, Sloan wouldn't have had the opportunity to miss the tackles he missed.

My main problem with him is his stats throughout the year and the fact he catches and runs without looking like passing or catches and passes immediately. He doesn't have the skills to be a half or 5/8. Not even in NSW Cup. Which might have been why Bulldogs ended up having him on the bench in NSW Cup, coming on as a hooker. He might indeed turn out to be a very capable hooker. Pack on a few more kgs if possible to better handle the collisions and he has a skill-set which might suit hooker. Runs a bit from dummy half, kicks a bit, passes both ways. He's just not a 1/2 or 5/8 and I find it unbelievably frustrating Dragons supporters are seemingly happy for him to be 1/2 or 5/8 again next year.
 

Edward

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He might indeed turn out to be a very capable hooker. Pack on a few more kgs if possible to better handle the collisions and he has a skill-set which might suit hooker. Runs a bit from dummy half, kicks a bit, passes both ways.
Might be possible if Cook or Liddle is injured at some stage.
 
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