Dragons v Dogs Round 1

[RufusRex]

Apparantly Atkinson was there to concentrate on last play kicking and Kyle was going to organise things ... that is why we looked shit until the last play kick.

 

[RedV01]

Apparantly Atkinson was there to concentrate on last play kicking and Kyle was going to organise things ... that is why we looked shit until the last play kick.

 

[jodragon40]

Like I said, to expect it from Atko this early on in his halfback role is unrealistic on top of kicking, organising & defending demands of his role. Again, burdening the past issue onto him is not going to do him any good. I think it's unfair to expect him to do everything straight away. I'd say we were in our half for most of the game, how many times have you seen halves run the ball inside their own half?

He also then needs to get in position to kick the ball on tackle 5 because he's our main kicker. It's a hell of a lot manage this early on, the smarter play is to develop his kicking game & gain confidence in that area.

I disagree, if that is one of your strengths you dont lose that ability, you may be a bit rusty but you need to reintroducing that skill back into your game.

Its not burdening him if he has to do that in his role. How is doing his role going to negatively affect him? Thats his job, its a skill he has.

The only reason that I can guess why he has left that part of his game in his bag of tricks is as a result of instructions from the coach.

But the coach in his interview before the game highlighted his running game as one of his greatest strengths and one which the coach wanted to use.

In relation to his kicking game and being in position to get the ball on the 5th that is nonsensical to me. Good 7s dont get caught with ball in hand on your 5th.

You dont even, well I never had an attacking structure with that situation in my play book, and I would be surprised if that has changed.

So against the rabbits, 7 runs for 47m, against the Dogs 7 runs for 40m and we just lose both close games. I am saying if he at least doubles that stat it increases the chances of us winning.

Until he runs the ball and places defenders in two minds our attacking structures will remain predictable and defensible simply because every man and his dog knows Flanagan doesn't have a running game.

So we will agree to disagree amicably on this point.

 

[jodragon40]

Apparantly Atkinson was there to concentrate on last play kicking and Kyle was going to organise things ... that is why we looked shit until the last play kick.

Correct that is his role, but that doesn't mean he doesn't demand the ball in hand on the 3rd and 4th play and in those plays , he plays eyes up footy and runs if the opportunity is there to do so.

 

[RedV01]

This was in the DT.

The Dragons were fuming after being beaten by the Bulldogs at Allegiant Stadium and yes, they needed to wear plenty of the blame. They didn’t throw a whole lot at Canterbury. They defended grimly but they carried very little threat.

It's true. This needs to be talked about more.

 

[Xuiz]

Liddle will come back this season RVH not next season! Maybe in the next game against the Storm??

Lomax will be playing for the Storm next week. Going to be a tough match

 

[Mailroomsgi]

neither Kyle/LKT or Atkinson are 7s ...

We either need to promote Reed or have another crack at borrowing Savala for 12 months.

Savala is the biggest myth in rugby league. He’s another Flanagan but he’s 6 foot 3 and has a big boot

Can’t create opportunities for himself + slow and he’s playing behind a great pack with studs around him

If it was up to me if LKT shows in Reggie’s that his defence has improved over 3-4 weeks and Kyle offers nothing in first grade I’d be soft benching Kyle so he’s still technically in the game day 19 but doesn’t play unless a half or hooker is hurt

Won’t happen but that’s my take on it

 

[RufusRex]

Savala is the biggest myth in rugby league. He’s another Flanagan but he’s 6 foot 3 and has a big boot

Can’t create opportunities for himself + slow and he’s playing behind a great pack with studs around him

If it was up to me if LKT shows in Reggie’s that his defence has improved over 3-4 weeks and Kyle offers nothing in first grade I’d be soft benching Kyle so he’s still technically in the game day 19 but doesn’t play unless a half or hooker is hurt

Won’t happen but that’s my take on it

I dont care about creating for himself (though he did do that in the trials)

He is better at getting the ball to the right areas on the field ... passes/runs/kicks better than Flano and defends as well as him too ...
Kyle cannot create for either himself or others.