Morgan
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I understood it as a figure of speech as well. Hitting the tackling bags meant, 'lots of tackling practice'.
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Illusion
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The only way is get the big guys to run at him at training , until he gets it , bags are a cushy option ......
GCRV
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5% working with JDB for technique. 10% getting bigger and stronger. 85% have big buys run at you in training until you can tackle them.
jodragon40
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I use to do that back in the day. Light contact , then half speed and then at pace. But I don't believe that they do this anymore. Perhaps someone could enlighten us.
Illusion
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Maybe because they may get injured .....
GCRV
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I think Wayne Bennett still does it. When he coached the Dragons he used to talk publicly about doing that with players who can't tackle so well. Hello Sowie.
jodragon40
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Maybe that's why his teams go well especially defensively
jodragon40
Staff
Especially if they can't tackle
Just a Mug Fan
SGI NSW Cup
Sloan is still on modified contract, so no tackling for him atm.
Tackling in done in opposed session and with pads in field sessions.
Most tackling and technical work is done in the gym along with wrestling.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
DRAGONS FULLBACK ON FIRE
Flanagan vowed to toughen up Tyrell Sloan in the off-season and the Dragons fullback has returned in 2024 a different player. Sloan’s shoulders have filled out and he’s using them more in defence with the young gun now regularly putting his body on the line, while his attack remains as scintillating as ever.The 21-year-old scored a double against the Sea Eagles on Saturday, taking his season tally to six tries in four games, and Sloan has now crossed in five straight games at WIN Stadium.
“Defence has been a big focus for us over the past few weeks, we had a few poor performances there but to come home here and put on a good performance for our fans, that was a massive effort from us,” Sloan said. “The boys start off the sets and hopefully I can finish them, that’s my job.”
Dragons skipper Ben Hunt set up Sloan’s second try against the Sea Eagles with a hook-back kick and he said the fullback is improving with every performance.
“Every week he seems to be getting a bit better and a bit better, his support game is one of the best in the NRL and he’s just trying to evolve his defensive game, he’s good at getting our numbers right,” Hunt said. “We know he’s always been an attacking player and Flanno has been working hard on him defensively and he’s getting better.”
Edward
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Massive improvement so far.
Johnnyanthony
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Hi everyone just wondering if anyone has any idea if Cody Ramsay will be back next year?
or if we have any quality fullbacks in nsw cup Tyrell Sloane is really letting the dragons down in that area in the games we are losing I feel in those games that are tight with 20 to go if we had a fullback that does those one percenters like catching the ball on the full, getting more envolved, bringing the ball back strongly and putting their body on the line defensively we will win a lot more of those games
or if we have any quality fullbacks in nsw cup Tyrell Sloane is really letting the dragons down in that area in the games we are losing I feel in those games that are tight with 20 to go if we had a fullback that does those one percenters like catching the ball on the full, getting more envolved, bringing the ball back strongly and putting their body on the line defensively we will win a lot more of those games
Chris M
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Ryan
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Sometimes it looks like he trying really hard to avoid running the ball.
Chris M
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SLOAN A DEFENSIVE LIABILITY FOR DRAGONS
Not that speed is everything for a fullback if they can’t make their tackles. It was another gutsy win by the Dragons to hand the Broncos their sixth straight defeat. But when Shane Flanagan was spotted talking one-on-one to Tyrell Sloan after game, it’s not hard to guess what the focus of that conversation was about. Everyone knows Flanagan is a defence-driven coach and it would be killing him knowing the talent Sloan has at his disposal.If only he could develop a stronger defensive mindset. Sloan came up with four shocking misses that led directly tries late in the game. Kotoni Staggs bumped Sloan off on two occasions, while Ezra Mam and young dummy half Blake Mozer both took turns. In fairness, Sloan had some big moments in the context of the game.
But it certainly didn’t make up for those late missed tackles that very nearly cost the Dragons victory. You just can’t have a fullback who consistently gets exposed this badly if you want to play finals footy.
jodragon40
Staff
Our much maligned fullback open to criticism in relation to his tackling technique, his inability to organise our defensive line and his inability to make one on one tackles. Every player has his own strengths and weaknesses at the moment his weakness is defensive. Last season we all held our collective breaths because he couldn't catch the flu. Everytime a bomb went up the chances were he would spill it. This year he has improved markedly, no doubt the coaching staff have worked on this aspect of his game. Now it has to be his technique and where he is actually positioned defending on the line. No doubt the opposition single him out. I was sitting right behind the posts and his effort in trying to stop the dummy half barging over was cringeworthy. Then when Suli missed Staggs there was an opportunity to stop Staggs but his technique was wrong and he was no chance. So in this game he made 4 tackles and missed 4 tackles a 50% fail rate and an unacceptable statistic. However overall this season GP - 17, Tackles made 116, avg about 7 a game. Missed tackles 24 avg 1.5 per game which is totally acceptable overall. He is ranked 165 out of 359 . Now compare him to another fullback that has played 17 games, Kennedy from the Sharks, he is ranked at 76 not a good thing he has made 107 tackles missed 36 tackles avg 2.12 . Bula, Tigers, GP - 17, tackles made 106, tackles missed 30, avg 1.07, ranked 108th. So statistics can be misleading but comparing like players/ positions/ games played we don't have the worst defensive fullback in the competition.
Edward
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It's a shame. Until the last few weeks, he has been a much better defender. Saturday was as bad as he's ever been.
Just a Mug Fan
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You're right statistics can be miss leading.
We defend on our line a lot so how many of those 117 was he 3rd man in.
Individual tackles made to missed would be an intersting stat.
Try causes Sloan ranks 3rd at 22, (Kennedy 19 Bula 12)nearly all of his missed tackle result in tries. So his missed tackles standout and fans react.
Next time I talk to Gabe I'll see if he will give me detailed stats on Sloan
jodragon40
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Cheers. It's like metres run stats can be misleading you can run for 100m as a forward but how many hit ups? Where did the runs start from, where did they end, did he bust tackles, did the run set up 2nd phase play what happened on the subsequent run. You really need to drill down into stats to actually get the real picture
jodragon40
Staff
Mate to my eye it's technique and strength. The tackle on the dummy half in my day would have been hooked for non effort. The missed tackle on Staggs different scenario. As a coach the thing that you look for in any player is , is he listening, is he willing and able to learn and can those things improve his personal performance and skillset. Time will tell