2024 squad and best 17

GCRV

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St George Illawarra Dragons​

Dragons 2024 Player Movements​

2024 Gains
Kyle Flanagan (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 2025), Hame Sele (South Sydney Rabbitohs, 2026)
2024 Losses
Josh Kerr (The Dolphins), Moses Mbye (St Helens Saints), Zane Musgrove (Warrington Wolves), Jayden Sullivan (Wests Tigers), Aaron Woods
Re-Signed
Jack de Belin (2024), Sione Finau (2025), Blake Lawrie (2026), Jacob Liddle (2026), Michael Molo (2024), Mikaele Ravalawa (2026)
Off Contract 2023
Billy Burns, Tyrell Fuimaono, Nick Lui-Toso, Tautau Moga, Connor Muhleisen
The following is correct as of September 12.

Full squad:​

Talatau Amone, Jack Bird, Ryan Couchman, Toby Couchman, Jack de Belin, Mathew Feagai, Max Feagai, Viliami Fifita, Kyle Flanagan, Ben Hunt, Jaiyden Hunt, Blake Lawrie, Jacob Liddle, Zac Lomax, Francis Molo, Michael Molo, Ben Murdoch-Masila, Zane Musgrove, Cody Ramsey, Mikaele Ravalawa, Hame Sele, Jackson Shereb, Tyrell Sloan, Jaydn Su'A, Moses Suli, Savelio Tamale, Alec Tuitavake, Paul Turner

Best 17 and full squad​

  1. Tyrell Sloan
  2. Mikaele Ravalawa
  3. Zac Lomax
  4. Moses Suli
  5. Mathew Feagai
  6. Talatau Amone
  7. Ben Hunt
  8. Blake Lawrie
  9. Jacob Liddle
  10. Francis Molo
  11. Jaydn Su'A
  12. Jack Bird
  13. Jack de Belin

  14. Hame Sele
  15. Viliami Fifita
  16. Michael Molo
  17. Kyle Flanagan

  18. Ryan Couchman
  19. Paul Turner
  20. Alec Tuitavake
  21. Savelio Tamale
  22. Max Feagai
  23. Jaiyden Hunt
  24. Ben Murdoch-Masila
  25. Zane Musgrove
  26. Cody Ramsey
  27. Jackson Shereb
  28. Toby Couchman
  29. No player signed
  30. No player signed
Thoughts on this? I think whoever made the list clearly has no idea what he is writing about.
 
Eric

Eric

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GCRV said:

St George Illawarra Dragons​

Dragons 2024 Player Movements​

2024 Gains
Kyle Flanagan (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 2025), Hame Sele (South Sydney Rabbitohs, 2026)
2024 Losses
Josh Kerr (The Dolphins), Moses Mbye (St Helens Saints), Zane Musgrove (Warrington Wolves), Jayden Sullivan (Wests Tigers), Aaron Woods
Re-Signed
Jack de Belin (2024), Sione Finau (2025), Blake Lawrie (2026), Jacob Liddle (2026), Michael Molo (2024), Mikaele Ravalawa (2026)
Off Contract 2023
Billy Burns, Tyrell Fuimaono, Nick Lui-Toso, Tautau Moga, Connor Muhleisen
The following is correct as of September 12.

Full squad:​

Talatau Amone, Jack Bird, Ryan Couchman, Toby Couchman, Jack de Belin, Mathew Feagai, Max Feagai, Viliami Fifita, Kyle Flanagan, Ben Hunt, Jaiyden Hunt, Blake Lawrie, Jacob Liddle, Zac Lomax, Francis Molo, Michael Molo, Ben Murdoch-Masila, Zane Musgrove, Cody Ramsey, Mikaele Ravalawa, Hame Sele, Jackson Shereb, Tyrell Sloan, Jaydn Su'A, Moses Suli, Savelio Tamale, Alec Tuitavake, Paul Turner

Best 17 and full squad​

  1. Tyrell Sloan
  2. Mikaele Ravalawa
  3. Zac Lomax
  4. Moses Suli
  5. Mathew Feagai
  6. Talatau Amone
  7. Ben Hunt
  8. Blake Lawrie
  9. Jacob Liddle
  10. Francis Molo
  11. Jaydn Su'A
  12. Jack Bird
  13. Jack de Belin

  14. Hame Sele
  15. Viliami Fifita
  16. Michael Molo
  17. Kyle Flanagan

  18. Ryan Couchman
  19. Paul Turner
  20. Alec Tuitavake
  21. Savelio Tamale
  22. Max Feagai
  23. Jaiyden Hunt
  24. Ben Murdoch-Masila
  25. Zane Musgrove
  26. Cody Ramsey
  27. Jackson Shereb
  28. Toby Couchman
  29. No player signed
  30. No player signed
Thoughts on this? I think whoever made the list clearly has no idea what he is writing about.
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My thought is that someone should learn WTF he or she is writing about before he or she does it.
Firstly the following will surely be able to find a deal in the ESL if not another NRL club:
  • Max Feagai
  • Ben Murdoch-Masila
Next is confirmed to have gone to the ESL:
  • Zane Musgrove
Next won't be in the 13 or 17 unless there are injuries to key players:
  • Jack Bird (in the 17 but not the 13)
  • Matt Feagai (unlikely to be in the 17)
  • Kyle Flanagan
Next will be in the 17:
  • Ryan Couchman
  • Savelio Tamale and/or Sione Finau (I think the former is a better player but latter is a better winger.)
Next are players not listed who will be in the top 30:
  • Sione Finau
  • Josh Coric
Next are players under pressure for a spot in the 17 (not counting those already nominated as not being in the 17):
  • Frank Molo
  • Mike Molo
  • Mikaele Ravalawa (better learn to be in position to make tackles)
  • Tyrell Sloan
  • Jacob Liddle (might be safe due to lack of options)
 
Edward

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Eric said:
My thought is that someone should learn WTF he or she is writing about before he or she does it.
Firstly the following will surely be able to find a deal in the ESL if not another NRL club:
  • Max Feagai
  • Ben Murdoch-Masila
Next is confirmed to have gone to the ESL:
  • Zane Musgrove
Next won't be in the 13 or 17 unless there are injuries to key players:
  • Jack Bird (in the 17 but not the 13)
  • Matt Feagai (unlikely to be in the 17)
  • Kyle Flanagan
Next will be in the 17:
  • Ryan Couchman
  • Savelio Tamale and/or Sione Finau (I think the former is a better player but latter is a better winger.)
Next are players not listed who will be in the top 30:
  • Sione Finau
  • Josh Coric
Next are players under pressure for a spot in the 17 (not counting those already nominated as not being in the 17):
  • Frank Molo
  • Mike Molo
  • Mikaele Ravalawa (better learn to be in position to make tackles)
  • Tyrell Sloan
  • Jacob Liddle (might be safe due to lack of options)
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Ryan and Toby Couchman will be in the 17.
 
Morgan

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GCRV said:

St George Illawarra Dragons​

Dragons 2024 Player Movements​

2024 Gains
Kyle Flanagan (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 2025), Hame Sele (South Sydney Rabbitohs, 2026)
2024 Losses
Josh Kerr (The Dolphins), Moses Mbye (St Helens Saints), Zane Musgrove (Warrington Wolves), Jayden Sullivan (Wests Tigers), Aaron Woods
Re-Signed
Jack de Belin (2024), Sione Finau (2025), Blake Lawrie (2026), Jacob Liddle (2026), Michael Molo (2024), Mikaele Ravalawa (2026)
Off Contract 2023
Billy Burns, Tyrell Fuimaono, Nick Lui-Toso, Tautau Moga, Connor Muhleisen
The following is correct as of September 12.

Full squad:​

Talatau Amone, Jack Bird, Ryan Couchman, Toby Couchman, Jack de Belin, Mathew Feagai, Max Feagai, Viliami Fifita, Kyle Flanagan, Ben Hunt, Jaiyden Hunt, Blake Lawrie, Jacob Liddle, Zac Lomax, Francis Molo, Michael Molo, Ben Murdoch-Masila, Zane Musgrove, Cody Ramsey, Mikaele Ravalawa, Hame Sele, Jackson Shereb, Tyrell Sloan, Jaydn Su'A, Moses Suli, Savelio Tamale, Alec Tuitavake, Paul Turner

Best 17 and full squad​

  1. Tyrell Sloan
  2. Mikaele Ravalawa
  3. Zac Lomax
  4. Moses Suli
  5. Mathew Feagai
  6. Talatau Amone
  7. Ben Hunt
  8. Blake Lawrie
  9. Jacob Liddle
  10. Francis Molo
  11. Jaydn Su'A
  12. Jack Bird
  13. Jack de Belin

  14. Hame Sele
  15. Viliami Fifita
  16. Michael Molo
  17. Kyle Flanagan

  18. Ryan Couchman
  19. Paul Turner
  20. Alec Tuitavake
  21. Savelio Tamale
  22. Max Feagai
  23. Jaiyden Hunt
  24. Ben Murdoch-Masila
  25. Zane Musgrove
  26. Cody Ramsey
  27. Jackson Shereb
  28. Toby Couchman
  29. No player signed
  30. No player signed
Thoughts on this? I think whoever made the list clearly has no idea what he is writing about.
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2014 gains is a sad looking list for now.
 
Eric

Eric

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I hope this is the team come round 1. That is, I hope some of those young players are up to the task and I hope Sloan can dramatically harden up over the off season. His ankle injury is an excellent opportunity to hit the gym for 6 hours a day with a lot of protein shakes.
  1. Tyrell Sloan
  2. Mikaele Ravalawa
  3. Zac Lomax (vc)
  4. Moses Suli
  5. Sione Finau
  6. Talatau Amone
  7. Ben Hunt
  8. Blake Lawrie
  9. Jacob Liddle
  10. Toby Couchman
  11. Jaydn Su'A
  12. Jackson Shereb
  13. Jack de Belin (c)

  14. Hame Sele
  15. Jack Bird
  16. Michael Molo or Frank Molo
  17. Ryan Couchman

  18. Kyle Flanagan
Pressure is on Suli to keep Tamale out.
 
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Eric said:
My thought is that someone should learn WTF he or she is writing about before he or she does it.
Firstly the following will surely be able to find a deal in the ESL if not another NRL club:
  • Max Feagai
  • Ben Murdoch-Masila
Next is confirmed to have gone to the ESL:
  • Zane Musgrove
Next won't be in the 13 or 17 unless there are injuries to key players:
  • Jack Bird (in the 17 but not the 13)
  • Matt Feagai (unlikely to be in the 17)
  • Kyle Flanagan
Next will be in the 17:
  • Ryan Couchman
  • Savelio Tamale and/or Sione Finau (I think the former is a better player but latter is a better winger.)
Next are players not listed who will be in the top 30:
  • Sione Finau
  • Josh Coric
Next are players under pressure for a spot in the 17 (not counting those already nominated as not being in the 17):
  • Frank Molo
  • Mike Molo
  • Mikaele Ravalawa (better learn to be in position to make tackles)
  • Tyrell Sloan
  • Jacob Liddle (might be safe due to lack of options)
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Max and BMM aren't going anywhere.
Kyle will be in the 17

Josh Coric and Jackson Shereb are not in the top 30.

Dan Russell has been extended.

Savelio Tamale has a lot of work to do on his defensive reads amd techniques before he is a regular FGer.

We are still pushing hard for a 9.
 
Eric

Eric

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Just a Mug Fan said:
Max and BMM aren't going anywhere.
Kyle will be in the 17

Josh Coric and Jackson Shereb are not in the top 30.

Dan Russell has been extended.

Savelio Tamale has a lot of work to do on his defensive reads amd techniques before he is a regular FGer.

We are still pushing hard for a 9.
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On the list above, Shereb is in the top 30.
 
Eric

Eric

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GCRV said:

St George Illawarra Dragons​

Dragons 2024 Player Movements​

2024 Gains
Kyle Flanagan (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 2025), Hame Sele (South Sydney Rabbitohs, 2026)
2024 Losses
Josh Kerr (The Dolphins), Moses Mbye (St Helens Saints), Zane Musgrove (Warrington Wolves), Jayden Sullivan (Wests Tigers), Aaron Woods
Re-Signed
Jack de Belin (2024), Sione Finau (2025), Blake Lawrie (2026), Jacob Liddle (2026), Michael Molo (2024), Mikaele Ravalawa (2026)
Off Contract 2023
Billy Burns, Tyrell Fuimaono, Nick Lui-Toso, Tautau Moga, Connor Muhleisen
The following is correct as of September 12.

Full squad:​

Talatau Amone, Jack Bird, Ryan Couchman, Toby Couchman, Jack de Belin, Mathew Feagai, Max Feagai, Viliami Fifita, Kyle Flanagan, Ben Hunt, Jaiyden Hunt, Blake Lawrie, Jacob Liddle, Zac Lomax, Francis Molo, Michael Molo, Ben Murdoch-Masila, Zane Musgrove, Cody Ramsey, Mikaele Ravalawa, Hame Sele, Jackson Shereb, Tyrell Sloan, Jaydn Su'A, Moses Suli, Savelio Tamale, Alec Tuitavake, Paul Turner

Best 17 and full squad​

  1. Tyrell Sloan
  2. Mikaele Ravalawa
  3. Zac Lomax
  4. Moses Suli
  5. Mathew Feagai
  6. Talatau Amone
  7. Ben Hunt
  8. Blake Lawrie
  9. Jacob Liddle
  10. Francis Molo
  11. Jaydn Su'A
  12. Jack Bird
  13. Jack de Belin

  14. Hame Sele
  15. Viliami Fifita
  16. Michael Molo
  17. Kyle Flanagan

  18. Ryan Couchman
  19. Paul Turner
  20. Alec Tuitavake
  21. Savelio Tamale
  22. Max Feagai
  23. Jaiyden Hunt
  24. Ben Murdoch-Masila
  25. Zane Musgrove
  26. Cody Ramsey
  27. Jackson Shereb
  28. Toby Couchman
  29. No player signed
  30. No player signed
Thoughts on this? I think whoever made the list clearly has no idea what he is writing about.
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Where did you get this info?
 
Morgan

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I guess when it comes to the Dragons these days, no news is good news. Does pre-season training start from November 1 for those not in rep teams?
 
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Chris M said:
Shereb physical ability is the prototype for modern second rowers. Unfortunately lazy AF and might not be tough enough to play first grade.
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Shereb played a lot better when in the middle and was worked, on the edge he doesn't go looking for work and seems to drift in and out of the game

Jarrah Treweek is the next backrower in the Shereb build hopefully he progresses better.
 
Just a Mug Fan

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Morgan said:
I guess when it comes to the Dragons these days, no news is good news. Does pre-season training start from November 1 for those not in rep teams?
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Edward said:
Typically they come back in the second week of November.
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They is no set date, players use to be given 8 weeks and 10 weeks off. Younger players 8 older 10.
It's now 7 weeks and 9.
So players like Amone Feagai back first and Lawrie Bird later.
Then rep players stagered Lomax Molo back first, Hunt and Suli probably new year.
They can come back early so maybe Sele would, to get up to date.
Some players continued training during finals, Sau BMM.
 
Eric

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Just a Mug Fan said:
Shereb played a lot better when in the middle and was worked, on the edge he doesn't go looking for work and seems to drift in and out of the game

Jarrah Treweek is the next backrower in the Shereb build hopefully he progresses better.
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Have you given up on Shereb or still a chance of kicking on to be what I think we all hope for?
 
Morgan

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Just a Mug Fan said:
Shereb played a lot better when in the middle and was worked, on the edge he doesn't go looking for work and seems to drift in and out of the game

Jarrah Treweek is the next backrower in the Shereb build hopefully he progresses better.
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Backrowers not getting involved enough not always but often is the equally the fault of the halves.
 
GCRV

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How to make the NRL’s bottom 9 from 2023 great again​

DRAGONS​

How it came to this​

Another season of disappointment for St George Illawarra, who didn’t start out on the right foot. There was little hope for their season and poor results cost Anthony Griffin his job after 11 rounds, causing skipper Ben Hunt to threaten to walk out on his contract. They finished with just five wins and a lot of questions about how to fix the mess.

Reason for hope​

Premiership-winning coach Shane Flanagan could be the man to turn things around after five seasons without making the finals as a club. There’s plenty of rising stars on the books and he knows how to get the best out of young talent.

Key issues​

Hunt has been the club’s best player over the past few years and the Dragons need him to buy into Flanagan’s coaching to get the best out of the whole team. For now he’s agreed to see out his deal but keeping him engaged in the club will be the biggest issue.
 
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