Coach from 2027

[AyiosYiorgos]

Based off all these signings, what Young has said and the general vibe around the club now + what I’ve heard journo’s say on some podcasts this week

Dean Young $1.01 to get the HC job full time

Agree, he will get the job, the club will say he deserves a chance with the new players 2year deal + 1 year Club Option

 

[jodragon40]

We really need someone who can stamp his authority with management and the players. He has to be someone who doesn't crap on and say yes sir, three bags full sir. He needs to be someone who has the respect of the players and to ensure that they put in week in and out for the years ahead and not shirk at the workload that he tasks them with. High esteem and respect is needed from individuals and team members to the Head Coach. No favoritism shown, each player treated equally and with fairness.

The new Head Coach would need to know what players are truly needed, where they are to play and be able to set workable guidelines for all players to follow. He needs to know the rules backwards, even to the extent of being able to bend them (without penalty) and of course have game plans that the team can adopt that will bring about good results. He definitely needs great attacking and defensive assistant coaches who can run the weekly training drills without any hiccups and these assistant coaches actually know what they have to do to get our attack and defense to be 100% better than what we have - being described presently as the worst attacking team in the comp with our defense leaking too many points.

I am sure that Tim Watsford would have an in depth job check list when interviews are being conducted such as establishing a clear framework for what the next appointment must deliver. A key pillar of that framework is expected to be junior development and recruitment oversight, with the Dragons determined to better retain and nurture their emerging talent within the club system.

The Dragons are placing significant value on ensuring their next coaching appointment is aligned with long-term sustainability rather than short-term fixes, particularly with so much promise emerging from their junior ranks.

Watsford has made it clear that any future coach will need to play a broader role than just first-grade performance, with a strong emphasis on development and recruitment integration and working alongside Daniel Anderson. He says that the club will take several weeks to define the structure and expectations for the role, particularly around pathways and recruitment alignment. He also says that they will have a look at what we need, and that focus is around that connection with our junior elite players and to ensure that they have all the support that they want.

Gee D Dragon David that took some reading but to me it was worth the read, well said sir. Can you forward this to senior management by email?

 

[Mailroomsgi]

He’s not my first choice but I can’t whinge for 2 years so gotta get behind him

He’s getting a tune out of the young forwards and to be very fair to him the outside backs are gash + fullback and Kyle are reserve grade standard

We’ll be able to make a much better judgement of his coaching ability 12 months from now

All id like to see at this point is some retention of our young guys to 3 or 4 year deals

 

[Dragon David]

Gee D Dragon David that took some reading but to me it was worth the read, well said sir. Can you forward this to senior management by email?

Thanks Joe. By Senior Management do you mean the Dragons themselves?

 

[jodragon40]

Thanks Joe. By Senior Management do you mean the Dragons themselves?

Definitely its not often you read comments that actually make sense

 

[TheRev]

He’s not my first choice but I can’t whinge for 2 years so gotta get behind him

He’s getting a tune out of the young forwards and to be very fair to him the outside backs are gash + fullback and Kyle are reserve grade standard

We’ll be able to make a much better judgement of his coaching ability 12 months from now

All id like to see at this point is some retention of our young guys to 3 or 4 year deals

I am still hopeful they truly are doing their due diligence... and that they are speaking privately with all of the players also to find out how they really feel about Young.. even though deep inside it it does seem Young will just be given the opportunity for up to 2yrs like the rumours said.. probably wont be too big a payout in his contract either, but tbh hard to see Dad sacking his son.. not unless we've been once again run into the ground... I dont even want to contemplate that as being possible... if its happened even with our new players (all now on longterm contracts) then we are in real strife.

Probably the most important thing to me is the young blokes (and the blokes behind them) have direction and know where they stand... and that they their hard work will be rewarded.. Dean does appear to do that... I would have thought Hornby but would be a far more intelligent coach and man manager though.. just more approachable and with a bigger vocabulary.. but also perhaps more capability to strategise the gameplan.. but do agree if Young gets it, u have to try and get behind him.. though part of me also wants to stick it to the club for such a lazy/nepo selection of the most important position... at a time our brand is so vulnerable... and if we do sign him... we are going to have forums and media full of shane/kyle nepo dialog for his entire tenure... and we will never really know if another coach ever had a shot at the job.

 

[Dave03]

Due diligence is a must. A few of the boys have liked social media posts re young as head coach. He seems to be their preference atm. He also attended the fan forum tonight (I believe). Anyone know if anything interesting was said?

 

[Rogue]

John strange anybody?

Almost certainly gets us Ethan Strange at 6

Excellent left field suggestion. Kinda dreading things a bit as Young firms.

 

[Illusion]

This is something I do like about Dean .........

 

[RufusRex]

i think right now the thing we have to hope for is that Dean proves a decent coach ... feels pointless to hope that they may go with someone else now

 

[redv13]

Personally, I think the job is his to lose to be honest. If the playing group are responding to him then that’s a good thing regardless of what I or anyone else on here thinks.

The young blokes love him and are responding to him so that’s a big tick especially moving into 2027 with all the new boys coming in.

I’d prefer a total outsider but like I said, my opinion means zero. There’s serious potential moving forward from 2027 and if the players want Deano then so be it and I’ll get on board quick smart

 

[RandomDragon]

I said when Flano got hired that that time it wouldnt be Young, I said this time it will be Young. I guarantee it will be Young, and I'm on board

 

[dragonheart]

So Random were you the only one to vote for Deano?

Look its great Dean gets on well with the young ones, but is he technically the right guy for the job, I havnt seen it as a defensive assistant coach.

 

[Mailroomsgi]

We’ll see, if it goes tits up then many people will say did he really EARN the job or was the fact he’s a dragons old boy and dads involved with the club a major factor?

I’ll be very impressed if the club hired a non dragons affiliated coach

 

[RedV01]

Personally, I think the job is his to lose to be honest. If the playing group are responding to him then that’s a good thing regardless of what I or anyone else on here thinks.

The young blokes love him and are responding to him so that’s a big tick especially moving into 2027 with all the new boys coming in.

I’d prefer a total outsider but like I said, my opinion means zero. There’s serious potential moving forward from 2027 and if the players want Deano then so be it and I’ll get on board quick smart

Usually when the players want someone, they don't get him unless he's really a standout. That how professional clubs do it. Something about the lunatics running the asylum. Good to finally get a win but need another 3 or 4 over the next 5 to 7 games for me to seriously reconsider my opinion. On the deadwood in the playing group and Deano as coach. Which is disappointing. I wish Deano was a really good coach.

 

[Dave03]

Do we know what's the coaching structure currently? Might give an insight into 2027 if Young is picked as head coach.

 

[RandomDragon]

To be fair, when flano got sacked he wasnt my first pick, but to see the way the forwards are playing and the team in general is playing with two rookie assistant coaches I can understand if he gets appointed. The fact Haran is gone helps and the fact Anderson is here helps a lot... not much to split young or Hornby so i'd be content with either. AS LONG AS we retain Couchman x 2 and one of loko/Halangahu. Its a shame about Ah Kee & Chapman but thats not in Young's remit and we have Mclaren, Shadi, Reed etc...

 

[Dragons4me]

I just stumbled on a podcast which included Ryan Papenhausen and Brandon Smith and they mentioned coach gametime blasts. Clearly this was directed at Bellyache and looking back they considered them funny. My point is finding a coach that when necessary praise and roast (without losing the players). The question is is that Dean Young??

 

[jodragon40]

My issue is not personal against Young its based on facts and history. So in the last 36 years we have had 4 previous players who became our head coach.

Craig Young- 41% win record,
Nathan Brown - 53% win record made the semis 4 times in his 6 seasons by far our most successful
Paul McGregor - 46% win record made semis twice
I'll throw in Shane Flanagan- 34.5% win record
Currently Dean Young - 25% win record.

There is an old saying , "Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it." (Winston Churchill ).

I hope history doesn't continue to repeat itself. If it does I hope we can rewrite history.

History lesson over, time for a bottle of rosso vino.

 

[jodragon40]

Personally, I think the job is his to lose to be honest. If the playing group are responding to him then that’s a good thing regardless of what I or anyone else on here thinks.

The young blokes love him and are responding to him so that’s a big tick especially moving into 2027 with all the new boys coming in.

I’d prefer a total outsider but like I said, my opinion means zero. There’s serious potential moving forward from 2027 and if the players want Deano then so be it and I’ll get on board quick smart

You know sometimes just sometimes being likeable is not a good thing being respected is a far more better quality for a coach to have.

So based on likes on social media Young gets the gig. I say wow just wow. In my day you had to have a resume which included experience and success.

You had to tell management how you could and would improve the club, the team, the players. You basically had to sell yourself.

I wish social media was around when I was coaching I would have had a real shot at coaching 1sts. I was liked a lot. Seriously