Kyle Flanagan & the coach

Ryan

SGI NSW Cup
He never said his son didn't have an indifferent season. This is getting silly now. Lkt isn't joey johns and neither is Kyle. They both have big flaws. If he wants to back a better defensive half then so be it. Ditto if he wants to back lkt who is a more attacking threat.

He also waxed lyrical about atko performances as a half & mentioned he can play 1,6 or 13 but atm is going to play 7.

I think people are using this as an excuse to vent.
No shit? He said LKT had an indifferent season. Not a peep about his son having a very indifferent season. Must piss LKT off no end.
 
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Dragons Chris

SGI NSW Cup
All he said was lkt had an indifferent season but is still young into his career. Lkt did have an indifferent season. His defence was bad & kyle's attack was bad too. Both have big flaws. He mentioned Reed when no one apart from dragons fans know about him. He didn't have to mention Reed at all.

This has been blown over the top & comments like he's a bad father is very poor. Tim watsford has said we're in the market for a half, I'm pretty sure ando has said something similar too. Ditto with flanno saying Kyle wasn't brought here to be a half. None of our other options are proven quality atm.
Yes. And Flanno just said "Kyle is going to play on the other side".
 

GCRV

SGI NSW Cup
Lets everyone relax and just wait and see. I remember Mug Fan said not to believe a thing Flanno says publicly. But I'm still shaking my head over him saying LKT had an indifferent season. Why single LKT out like that? I don't understand at all.
 

RedV01

SGI NSW Cup
Lets everyone relax and just wait and see. I remember Mug Fan said not to believe a thing Flanno says publicly.
No relaxing. He is turning the club into a laughing stock. Now his own little fiefdom to serve the interests of his family. I can't understand how any Dragons fan isn't blowing up deluxe!
But I'm still shaking my head over him saying LKT had an indifferent season. Why single LKT out like that? I don't understand at all.
I'll tell you exactly why. He sees LKT as the primary threat to Kyle's place in the team and wants him to walk out. Flanno can then continue picking Kyle and say, there is no one else because LKT walked out.
 

Edward

SGI NSW Cup
No relaxing. He is turning the club into a laughing stock. Now his own little fiefdom to serve the interests of his family. I can't understand how any Dragons fan isn't blowing up deluxe!

I'll tell you exactly why. He sees LKT as the primary threat to Kyle's place in the team and wants him to walk out. Flanno can then continue picking Kyle and say, there is no one else because LKT walked out.
I'm a big fan of constructive criticism. I think that will help LKT develop into a really good player.
 

GCRV

SGI NSW Cup
I'm a big fan of constructive criticism. I think that will help LKT develop into a really good player.
I usually agree with you but not on this. I'm sure lots of or all players get constructive criticism away from the media but for LKT to be singled out like that...... to quote Crawley on NRL 360, "there is something going on." I can't pretend it isn't going on after this.
 

Eric

Staff
We already have one, Kyle Flanagan.
That name is banned on this forum. The nameless one is all I use.
As in the name Kyle Flanagan? I don't know about jodragon40 jodragon40 but I certainly have no issue with anyone talking about him. The halves last year were very ordinary and he played every game...... So there's that. Even though IMO Ilias was even worse. It's just people were talking about it on every thread so I thought this thread would be useful.
 

Dragons Chris

SGI NSW Cup
I've been saying for a while. I think it will come down to the CEO ordering Flanno to drop Kyle or the new coach, starting this Wednesday (after the team is named on Tuesday afternoon) will. CEO specifically said Kyle was only a temporary measure due to Hunt walking out, Atkinson will be halfback next year and Kyle was supposed to be a #14. Flanno didn't exactly contradict the CEO but all but did by saying Atkinson would be halfback and "Kyle will be on the other side".

Since when has it become a thing for the halfback to only play on one side?
 

Dragons Chris

SGI NSW Cup
I’m telling everyone right now the halves in 2026 will be Atkinson and Flanagan

No matter how good the rest of the team is there will be a ceiling to our attack with Kyle and Gutho in 2 of the spine positions
Unfortunately, I think this right. At least to start the year. If after 6 rounds we are at or close to the bottom of the ladder, there might be changes in the spine including Kyle. If LKT is playing well in reserve grade. If we are around the middle of the table, will have to wait until after Origin. If we are near the top of the table after 6 rounds, only injury will prevent Kyle being in the halves all year.
 

GCRV

SGI NSW Cup
I’m telling everyone right now the halves in 2026 will be Atkinson and Flanagan

No matter how good the rest of the team is there will be a ceiling to our attack with Kyle and Gutho in 2 of the spine positions
Unfortunately, I think this right. At least to start the year. If after 6 rounds we are at or close to the bottom of the ladder, there might be changes in the spine including Kyle. If LKT is playing well in reserve grade. If we are around the middle of the table, will have to wait until after Origin. If we are near the top of the table after 6 rounds, only injury will prevent Kyle being in the halves all year.
Imagine the uproar if he plays poorly and Dragons lose the first couple of games.
 

No Surrender

SGI Junior League
Imagine the uproar if he plays poorly and Dragons lose the first couple of games.
Imagine the egg most of you have on your faces if the forward pack performs and as a result our side wins the first few games.

If LKT or Kade Reed play very well they will be selected.

Our CEO stated clearly that KF was signed as a 14.

I would love to know whether SF sees LKT as a 7 or a 6.

If so, KF may start the season at 7. Otherwise LKT starts at 7 and KF helps develop Kade Reed in KOE Cup.
 

GCRV

SGI NSW Cup
Imagine the egg most of you have on your faces if the forward pack performs and as a result our side wins the first few games.

If LKT or Kade Reed play very well they will be selected.

Our CEO stated clearly that KF was signed as a 14.

I would love to know whether SF sees LKT as a 7 or a 6.

If so, KF may start the season at 7. Otherwise LKT starts at 7 and KF helps develop Kade Reed in KOE Cup.
I don't think Reed can play in early part of the season. He's not top 30 until 2027.
 

Dragons Chris

SGI NSW Cup
if that’s true then LKT should’ve been given as much grace as KF except he wasn’t. he had an ‘indifferent’ year while the coach has already decided that his son will play with atkinson in the halves before the preseason had even begun. who gives someone a spot without working for it
I can only hope Flanno said that spur of the moment, not thought through. Or that Deano with the backing of the CEO has laid down the law. I very much doubt Ennis will challenge Flanno on it.
 

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
LKT showed some flashes in attack, however he was found wanting often in defence.

I believe that is the reason for the coach commentary.

One thing you can’t fault KF for is his defence.
He's a legs tackler. Better than missing tackles but doubt he tackles well enough to make it as a hooker.

Can't fault his effort. Unfortunately that alone isn't enough. Blocka is in the same boat. Luch is the opposite.
 

Eric

Staff
Yep fwd packs are a massive influence on halves effectiveness, take Isaiya Katoa for example who was very poor behind a well beaten fwd pack in his 2 games for Tonga.
That's true. Same could be said for Ilias and LKT but somehow coach seems to think otherwise.
There was the one game early in the season. Might have been against Gold Coast. I can't remember now. But the forwards were clearly ascendant. From memory 3 or 4 of them ran for over 100m. Kyle had a really good game. Best I've seen him play. Think he had 3 try assists. Ilias was ordinary even in that game.

If Kyle is picked, I'm sure he will have to play well or he will get dropped. IMO people are worrying about it too much. I honestly don't think Flanno favoured him last season. It's just we didn't have anyone else. It seems almost everyone agrees he is and last season was better than Ilias. Glover was better in attack than both of them but I can't even imagine him in the NRL with THAT defence. He makes Sloan's defence look like JDBs. So unless Flanno was going to play JDB at halfback, he was out of options.

And as for giving LKT a bit of rev in public, he was right to do that. He expects more from LKT. As for Kyle, he knows he's playing to the best of his ability. Why give him a rev?

JDB...... feels weird knowing I won't be talking about his game or other issues next season. Pretty sure I remember his debut. He came off the bench against Newcastle and I was saying then he was a gun forward.
 
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