Recruitment and Retention for 2025

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Chris M said:
Missed it. Did he have anything important to say? Like if he has someone lined up to play halfback?
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He really gave us nothing.. more of a 'showing up' and just giving a few facts which is all good to avoid speculation.. he did confirm that we arent paying any cash etc.. well as far as we know anyway.. still a small chance the NRL forces it on us. And he did confirm no halves are 'done deals' yet, but we were talking to 2025 and 2026 targets.

Hoping Flanno offers a little more tonight, but tbf I dont think hes going to be letting any announcements slip out.. even if Gutho is close, we would still need Parra signing off I imagine.. so no point going on record till its done.
 
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Edward said:
Agree. The relationship had obviously become untenable. But now we are in a hole for a halfback next year. I was just saying, if the relationship off the field hadn't gotten to where it was, it would have been handy to keep him around for next year.
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I am putting faith in flanno I'm hoping he has a plan
 
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We are sure going to have a wad of cash to wave around. Does anyone know how much salary cap space ?

Let’s hope Flanno does not pay overs for new players.

I think it will start off with Gutho (with Parra chipping in) and Lodge.

Then maybe JAC !

Two more days !I can’t wait !

Then the🏆

I wonder if 100/1 shot Saint George will get a start !
 
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100% we will get a half.. there are players on the market if you drop back a tier or 2.. but with an open NRL halves spot up for grabs, we will get someone a bit higher up the food chain. I think we will go after someone with some pace who probably plays 6.

The question for me is whether we are still replacing Marschke as well.. id feel a lot better with 2 blokes to fight it out + cover injury.. but if we sign everyone we are chasing, our 4 slots wont be enough.. I think we need Ravalawa to go also (who supposedly is talking to UK clubs).

Red T said:
We are sure going to have a wad of cash to wave around. Does anyone know how much salary cap space ?
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My napkin calculations were 2.5-3 million.. including the 900k from Hunt leaving.. it might be a little more.. but that gives you an idea how far under the cap we are running currently... and how important it is that we actually land a few players for 2025 :p

The good thing is apart from Lawrie.. I think everyones salary is roughly on the mark.. a lot of the wastage has been filtered out under Flanno.
 
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Red T said:
We are sure going to have a wad of cash to wave around. Does anyone know how much salary cap space ?

Let’s hope Flanno does not pay overs for new players.

I think it will start off with Gutho (with Parra chipping in) and Lodge.

Then maybe JAC !

Two more days !I can’t wait !

Then the🏆

I wonder if 100/1 shot Saint George will get a start !
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Nobody knows how much cap space we have there are far too many unknowns.

We have Hunts money now and what else we have Gutho will be taking a large chuck if it.
Flanni said we don't have the cap space to sign JAC.

Nothing happens in 2 days that is just a date journos use for clickbait stories.
 
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Just a Mug Fan said:
There is no way we have anything close to that.
We have 27 players signed, we definitely don't have cap space to sign 3, million dollar players
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Edit: I thought we had 4 slots.. but it is only 3.. so the only way we can buy JAC is if we clear 1 more spot.. so assumably we only buy him if we sell Ravalawa first..
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For whatever its worth, this is my Napkin Maths for the 3 players we were targeting before Hunt left:

o Gutho is 950k
o Lodge is ~450k
o JAC I will price @500k (minus Ravalawas money we get back, say 300k) = 200k net cost to us

Lets assume we buy all 3 successfully.. thats 1.6mill spent.. lets assume there is nothing left after that.

Now Hunt gets sacked:
o Hunts 2025 salary @ 950k

To spend Hunts money.. I would suggest we will end up signing Atkinson for say 550k, which will leave us about 350-400 left to help facilitate the extra half or middle that Flanno wants at some point.. add that to whatever we get for Fifita/Lawrie.

The total spent was around 2.5mill.
 
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Flanno loves douehi, he's had previous experience with him. He likes his style but a bit of risk & dragons will look at him. Flanno wants the dust settle for a few days for now.

Flanno happy the club has made the decision for the best interest of the club.
 
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Eels @10.25PM have already released Gutho from his contract (SMH source), fmd have u ever seen something move so fast.. could be as soon as tomorrow for the signing.
 
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GCRV said:
Why do you want Gutho? To play fullback? Sloan on the outer for you? Can't say I disagree about that. He's coming into his 4th year of first grade. He's in the middle of his career! But not sold on Gutho. Why do you think Parra want to get rid of him?
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Yes to play fullback, although sloan improved last year I don't think it was a big improvement & he's not at the level of Gutho. Nor do we utilise sloan's strengths enough, like a drinkwater to override his defensive issues. Parra want to remove him as they're likely in a salary cap mess & already have other commanding voices in their team. He's an easy out.
 
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TheRev said:
Edit: I thought we had 4 slots.. but it is only 3.. so the only way we can buy JAC is if we clear 1 more spot.. so assumably we only buy him if we sell Ravalawa first..
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For whatever its worth, this is my Napkin Maths for the 3 players we were targeting before Hunt left:

o Gutho is 950k
o Lodge is ~450k
o JAC I will price @500k (minus Ravalawas money we get back, say 300k) = 200k net cost to us

Lets assume we buy all 3 successfully.. thats 1.6mill spent.. lets assume there is nothing left after that.

Now Hunt gets sacked:
o Hunts 2025 salary @ 950k

To spend Hunts money.. I would suggest we will end up signing Atkinson for say 550k, which will leave us about 350-400 left to help facilitate the extra half or middle that Flanno wants at some point.. add that to whatever we get for Fifita/Lawrie.

The total spent was around 2.5mill.
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You pay Gutho 950K?????????????????? I wouldn't pay him half that.

That just a bit less than Tedesco, Walsh, Tom Turbo are on and about the same as Parras best player by a mile, Mitchell Moses is on.
 
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Dave03 said:
Yes to play fullback, although sloan improved last year I don't think it was a big improvement & he's not at the level of Gutho. Nor do we utilise sloan's strengths enough, like a drinkwater to override his defensive issues. Parra want to remove him as they're likely in a salary cap mess & already have other commanding voices in their team. He's an easy out.
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Gutho is 31 years old. The only way is down for a fullback that age. Ask Tedesco about it and Gutherson was never half as good as Tedesco.
 
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Ryan said:
You pay Gutho 950K?????????????????? I wouldn't pay him half that.
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Thats what hes listed at, but then journos tonight are saying its 875k.. so thats what we will be paying for 2025 (in full).. probably 700 or so for the remaining years... hopefully the remaining Saints gets on board soon, I reckon he will be our man within 24-48hrs.

Potentially captain also.. but I do wonder if Flanno might want to see how the group interacts over pre-season.. the Dogs didnt make their decision till late February with Chrichton... but the other advantage Gutho will have over Cook/Sua is he is on the field for 80mins a game.
 
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