That's a good point. TBH if Su'a wants to elevate his game further & cement a rep spot then he needs to become a better leader, either through captaincy/vc or being in the leadership group. Imo I would put him in a leadership capacity even if he doesn't want it, see if he sinks or swims. The upside of him flourishing as a leader would be big for us, since we've lacked proper leadership for a while.
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That's a good point. TBH if Su'a wants to elevate his game further & cement a rep spot then he needs to become a better leader, either through captaincy/vc or being in the leadership group. Imo I would put him in a leadership capacity even if he doesn't want it, see if he sinks or swims. The upside of him flourishing as a leader would be big for us, since we've lacked proper leadership for a while.
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Definitely we will get 1 half-decent name in to replace Hunt, I think we are going to have players asking to come.. but I suspect we already had 1 or 2 we were talking too.. its just whether we can get them for 2025. I do hope we dont go for Douehi though.. not that I mind him as a backup (hes a better player than ppl give him credit for), but I think he wants too much cash & too much injury risk.. I think were better off with a fast 6 if were gonna play Flanno @7.
If we get any halves injuries though... its potentially Glover or LKT dropping in.. lets pray for no serious injuries.
We have had so little leadership for so long.. now we will have 2 genuine leaders in Gutho & Cook.. Val is a pretty steady voice as well.. its a big step up from guys like Hunt and Lomax as our veterans.. both had their pros and cons.. but neither is a leader of humans.
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NO, NO GUTHO is the theme of the day. No more Dads Army recruitment. I rate Holmes, JDB, Cook, not so much Frank Molo and RFM but they are ok but we don't need any more veterans unless they can play halfback.Hearing Gutherson has been handed an immediate release form the Eels to sign a three year contract with us. Yeh he offers us experience and leadership but the guy is 30. Dont we have sufficient of those already. Other clubs will be calling us Dads Army soon. ''Hey guys Dads Army just signed up for the wooden spoon''.
Corey Allen has played in a winning Origin team and made a GF at fullback in case Sloan doesn't play much better.
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Teddy still goes ok. But not close to as good as he was 3 or 4 years ago when he was probably the best player in the game. If LKT doesn't work out, Gutho "might" go ok at 5/8. Who knows really because as far as I know, he's never played there before. Big ask to ask someone at his stage of career to take that step.
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The only mistake was not biting the bullet and doing it sooner.
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Gutho would be ok as long as he is still on the market after a halfback and prop is secured.
TheRev
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We will never know of course.. sliding doors.. but the difference between now and 12 months ago.. is we have Gutho, Cook, Holmes in the squad to pick up the leadership reigns.. if we had of let our only marquee go 12 mths ago.. would have been nervous times.. maybe it would have gone better.. or maybe much worse..
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Gold Coast Titans release Tanah Boyd, signs with new NRL team
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Not us..one option down
TheRev
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I like Boyd (think hes undervalued) but I assume Flanno doesnt cause we could have traded for him at any point during the year.. we will get someone on par or better I think.
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He goes ok but not more than a stop-gap option. Can tackle, run and kick but his passing is woeful for a halfback.
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Who wrote that crap dillusional dipstick
RedV01
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What's with the love for Gutho? Corey Allen is younger and has achieved far more as a fullback than Gutho. A bit on the slow side for a fullback but so is Gutho.
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Won and Origin series playing fullback for QLD. Made a GF playing fullback for Souffs. How about Gutho?LOL...come on mate
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Flanno seemed super excited didnt he... I thought Douehi was originally offered minimum value 150k or some such.. but they raised it to 350k for 2025, its kind of serious money if hes going to play NSW Cup.... which I think he would be perfect for.. great fill in for injury.. but I feel like we can aim 1 tier higher to replace Hunt.. I think/hope that Flanno suddenly has more options than he realised now that Hunt is gone and players are coming to him for opportunity.
Halfback + Gutho + Lodge are our last 3 spots.. hopefully we can resolve them shortly and get onto possibly some of the smaller deals we might want.. but anything else will require players moved on first...
If that's your criteria then there's no point discussing it with you. Players aren't just decided on limited games, I'd take a body of work. There's a reason why Gutho has been highly regarded by the Eels for a long time while Corey Allan has bounced around the league...
RedV01
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Gutho has a very long body of work. That's true and the problem. I would've been keen to sign him 5 years ago though not for 950k a year. About 700k then and 0k now.
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Hahaha cmon mate you have to be a troll at this point, he filled in a single origin game into a team of superstars and he certainly wasn't the highlight of the squad at the Rabbits either. He's a good player but saying those 2 things compares to a 10year experienced leader of a club is ridiculous.
Exactly right, making a GF appearance doesn't make you a superstar lol
RedV01
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Was it a single game? Thought it was all 3. Doesn't matter. Gutho was never among the top fullbacks and is clearly sliding. Sloan is a fullback who has the talent to breakout in the future. If it doesn't happen, have Allen who is only 26 and probably coming into his best. WTF would we want Gutho for?
And what are the fullback highlights from Gutho's VERY LONG career? I know he played centre in Origin, might have been with Allen at fullback for QLD, had a shocker. I remember because I was blowing up he was selected ahead of Lomax at the time.