Round 9: St. George Illawarra v Wests Tigers

Edward

Edward

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TheRev said:
Yah I thought Klemmer would be one of our best.. but hes doing fine imo.. hes a serviceable cog.. were just missing 1 or 2 that are more than just serviceable.. Im not sure how close we are to filling that #30 spot.. I think Flanno wants to aim higher, but I dunno who were gonna pull at short notice.
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Why can't they raid ESL for forwards?
 
Dragons Chris

Dragons Chris

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jodragon40 said:
Being reported Illias has been axed?
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Flanno will probably select LKT, the 19 year-old 5/8 to play halfback and tell him to do all the kicking, all the game management, all the ball-playing so Kyle can catch and pass or occasionally run straight and get very easily tackled.

But even LKT at halfback will be better than what we have had so far this year.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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Chris M said:
Flanno will probably select LKT, the 19 year-old 5/8 to play halfback and tell him to do all the kicking, all the game management, all the ball-playing so Kyle can catch and pass or occasionally run straight and get very easily tackled.

But even LKT at halfback will be better than what we have had so far this year.
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The kid has talent but talking about throwing him into the deep end. I'm not talking about the opposition, I'm talking about the atmosphere of magic round. If he receives the call up I wish him the very best, he is a 5/8 isn't he? So I'd envisage Flanagan going to 7 and game manager?
 
Dragons Chris

Dragons Chris

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jodragon40 said:
The kid has talent but talking about throwing him into the deep end. I'm not talking about the opposition, I'm talking about the atmosphere of magic round. If he receives the call up I wish him the very best, he is a 5/8 isn't he? So I'd envisage Flanagan going to 7 and game manager?
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He is a 5/8 but so is Kyle apparently.
 
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Dave03

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I'm not a fan of the logic behind dropping Illias & replacing him with a 5/8th then expecting the current 5/8th (Kyle) to play halfback when he has hardly done the kicking for us. I hope it works out but it would've made more sense to bring in Glover for Illias or LKT for Kyle. I hope both halves kick well but it seems a little bit panic stations tbh.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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Dave03 said:
I'm not a fan of the logic behind dropping Illias & replacing him with a 5/8th then expecting the current 5/8th (Kyle) to play halfback when he has hardly done the kicking for us. I hope it works out but it would've made more sense to bring in Glover for Illias or LKT for Kyle. I hope both halves kick well but it seems a little bit panic stations tbh.
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Have to wait to see if anyone is promoted from ressies. Perhaps it may be someone already playing 1sts. Can't jump the gun here can we Mug Fan Just a Mug Fan
 
Eric

Eric

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Dave03 said:
It doesn't matter which half you pick if the instructions remain the same. Our fwd pack lacks any punch too, we always struggle with field position. Whoever out of Glover & LKT has performed better this season should get first crack in the halves. I'd drop Guler & Lawrie, bring in Stewart & LPT. I'd how no issues with a Jett Liu or Nick T for Luch. I doubt any changes will occur apart from Stewart for Lawrie or Guler & Illias for one of LKT or Glover.

I'd rather get games into the youngsters, figure out how far they are from 1st grade standard then going through the motions with Lawrie, Guler, Klemmer, Luch etc. I'm over it but it won't happen cos Flanno is only contracted until next year & I don't think he wants 2 years of missing finals footy with us on his resume.

8. Klemmer
9. Cook
10. Couchman
11. Egan
12. Sua
13. JDB
14. Liddle
15. Stewart
16. LPT
17. Liu/Nick T
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GCRV said:
Like the idea but think it's a bit too much going with LPT, Stewart, Egan, Liu/Nick T.
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What is there to lose? If they get hammered, put them back in NSW Cup. Who expected Egan to be as good in the NRL as he has turned out? That's just the way I see it. Remember there is also RFM. He's going well in NSW Cup but yeah, has to be on an edge, not in the middle.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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Dave03 said:
I'm not a fan of the logic behind dropping Illias & replacing him with a 5/8th then expecting the current 5/8th (Kyle) to play halfback when he has hardly done the kicking for us. I hope it works out but it would've made more sense to bring in Glover for Illias or LKT for Kyle. I hope both halves kick well but it seems a little bit panic stations tbh.
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Look back in my day the halfback was the manager on the field, ran all the structured play. My 5/8 had more leeway to play unstructured footy eyes up.

Just remember they use to be lined up next to each other in attack so things have changed. But in my experience it's extremely difficult if your 5/8 sometime in his career hasn't played that management role to just pick it up on the run.

Time will tell.
 
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Dave03

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jodragon40 said:
Look back in my day the halfback was the manager on the field, ran all the structured play. My 5/8 had more leeway to play unstructured footy eyes up.

Just remember they use to be lined up next to each other in attack so things have changed. But in my experience it's extremely difficult if your 5/8 sometime in his career hasn't played that management role to just pick it up on the run.

Time will tell.
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I'm not worried about the management, I'm worried about the kicking.
 
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Dave03

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www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com

Newcastle are their own worst enemy and Wahs on the up - April efficiency update - The Rugby League Eye Test

With the Bulldogs conceding 42 points against Brisbane on Thursday evening, it appears that the best defense in the NRL is now letting the Newcastle Knights have the ball. We will get to the Knights woes shortly, but prior to Round 8, the Dogs had only trailed on the scoreboard for 3.5% of game...
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Pretty much highlights what's obviously an issue, the lack of line speed & field position. Really good read tbh, a bit complicated in some sections but worth reading imo.
 
jodragon40

jodragon40

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Dave03 said:
I'm not worried about the management, I'm worried about the kicking.
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With all due respect that is an important part of the management. A kicking game is only as good as the kickers expertise in that area and of course the field position that you are actually kicking from.
 
Mailroomsgi

Mailroomsgi

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IMG_6833.jpegAbsolutely horrific viewing from dragons’ perspective

They have this sort of data analysis available to them as well so the same issues being there is a concern
 
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Dave03

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jodragon40 said:
With all due respect that is an important part of the management. A kicking game is only as good as the kickers expertise in that area and of course the field position that you are actually kicking from.
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For some halves can do both like a cleary & Reynolds but others like burton aren't managing. They're just kicking the ball after being set-up in the correct position by the other half I.e. sexton.

Like I've said, I'm not worried about the setting up part its the actual skill of kicking the football which is my concern with Kyle & lkt.
 
Ryan

Ryan

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Dave03 said:
For some halves can do both like a cleary & Reynolds but others like burton aren't managing. They're just kicking the ball after being set-up in the correct position by the other half I.e. sexton.

Like I've said, I'm not worried about the setting up part its the actual skill of kicking the football which is my concern with Kyle & lkt.
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I'll be surprised if Ilias, not Kyle is dropped. I know what they are saying in the media but it makes no sense to me. If Kyle was any kind of decent kicker, why hasn't he been doing it? Also, if it's Kyle, it'll basically be two changes for the price of one. Unless Flanno is going to have LKT play halfback which would be just mental! Finally, if it's Ilias instead of Kyle, the rest of the squad must certainly be getting very pissed over the flagrant preferable treatment Kyle has been getting for a year and 8 rounds.
 
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