Where do you see us in 5 years

[RedV01]

Ok so this is my personal opinion on what is required to make us competitive again. The coach has to go his resigning of Bird was nonsensical and he appears to me to have gone overboard on the loyalty issue. The new coach most probably Flanagan needs to instill discipline, passion into the top 30 group. Every player needs to be told non performance will not be acceptable and nobody's spot is certain. We need fresh blood in our recruitment team because our recent recruitment is abismal. We have ample fire-power in the backs. Our biggest issue is our pack all our resources and money should be targeted at obtaining 2 props that can consistently run the 100m. Muhleisen needs to come into the team as a specialist hooker and give us speed in the ruck area. Gosiewski who again scored today in reserves needs to be in the 17. Sims should play out the rest of the season in reserves with Burgess and both leave next season. We need to rebuild our pack around Sua. Lawrie should never start again but stay on the bench for now. Our defensive coach should be shown the door, blind freddy can see Hunt needs an enforcer in the defensive line to stop the opposition running at him. I have watched very closely this year and last and our club is not playing for each other and the manner in which the coach has alienated our young stars and over coached Amone this should have sounded off the alarm bells in the front office. Until the management realises we need to go in a new direction then we will be at best a team battling for a position between 10th and 16th.

I hate to be the party pooper but this looks like a blueprint for now, not for 5 years in the future.

 

[GCRV]

I hate to be the party pooper but this looks like a blueprint for now, not for 5 years in the future.

Whenever the team has props who can't regularly run for over 100m, or average less than 100m after 10 games, players need to be dropped and props who can do that need to be a priority within the salary cap.

 

[Eric]

Whenever the team has props who can't regularly run for over 100m, or average less than 100m after 10 games, players need to be dropped and props who can do that need to be a priority within the salary cap.

I know he isn't a prop but Angus Crighton is still unsigned for next season. Last night he caused Melbourne all kinds of trouble and at one point, ran straight through the middle. I don't mean he ran a good line or was put into a gap. He took a hit up and ran straight through at least 2 Melbourne defenders and came out the other side before stopping in front of the fullback to look for a support player.

I thought how long it's been since a Dragons forward did that. I think it might have been in the pre JDB-problem era.

 

[jodragon40]

I hate to be the party pooper but this looks like a blueprint for now, not for 5 years in the future.

Starts now you have to build for the future not wait for the future in my humble opinion

 

[jodragon40]

I know he isn't a prop but Angus Crighton is still unsigned for next season. Last night he caused Melbourne all kinds of trouble and at one point, ran straight through the middle. I don't mean he ran a good line or was put into a gap. He took a hit up and ran straight through at least 2 Melbourne defenders and came out the other side before stopping in front of the fullback to look for a support player.

I thought how long it's been since a Dragons forward did that. I think it might have been in the pre JDB-problem era.

Props

 

[Eric]

Props

Unfortunately I don't know of any good ones on the market.

 

[Chris M]

Unfortunately I don't know of any good ones on the market.

Jordan McClean. I think David Klemmar might be as well.

 

[RedV01]

Jordan McClean. I think David Klemmar might be as well.

Haven't we learned anything from the Woods and Burgess debacles? No signing of props who used to be good.

 

[jodragon40]

I can think of a few, the obvious Matt Lodge, Herman Es esse, Jordan McLean although hes 30 so probably not, the up and comers off the top of my head from the Roosters Daniel Saluka-Fifita, from the Sharks Franklin Pele, Manly Sione Fainu, and our own Poasa Faamussili

 

[Chris M]

I can think of a few, the obvious Matt Lodge, Herman Es esse, Jordan McLean although hes 30 so probably not, the up and comers off the top of my head from the Roosters Daniel Saluka-Fifita, from the Sharks Franklin Pele, Manly Sione Fainu, and our own Poasa Faamussili

Mat Lodge!!! Of course. Poasa Faamussili is barely NSW Cup standard. I think he was recently dropped from NSW Cup.

 

[Eric]

Now we've had a better look at the Flegg team, in 5 years:

1. Stewart or Sloan
2. Maybe Ramsey?
3. Lomax
4. Johnson or Skelton
5. ????
6. Amone
7. Herring
8. Lawrie
9. Hooper
10. Coric
11. ????
12. Su'A
13. Couchman

 

[GCRV]

Now we've had a better look at the Flegg team, in 5 years:

1. Stewart or Sloan
2. Maybe Ramsey?
3. Lomax
4. Johnson or Skelton
5. ????
6. Amone
7. Herring
8. Lawrie
9. Hooper
10. Coric
11. ????
12. Su'A
13. Couchman

You don't rate Suli and the Feagai's? Suli has been around for a long time but I think he's only 23.

 

[Illusion]

Hi all when I said where do you see us in 5 years , it was more about the way things have been run by our management ...... For me if things stayed the same as it has for the last 7 years and they don't improve in all areas Board , Coaching , before recruiting , can't see us being competitive with the top sides ..... So the last 2 seasons under Hook , has there been improvement that's heading in the right direction ? Or has it been another 2 years wasted ..... I for one don't see how they will be any better if the big Knobs don't get off their high horses and start looking around at the mess they have created ......

 

[Morgan]

Hi all when I said where do you see us in 5 years , it was more about the way things have been run by our management ...... For me if things stayed the same as it has for the last 7 years and they don't improve in all areas Board , Coaching , before recruiting , can't see us being competitive with the top sides ..... So the last 2 seasons under Hook , has there been improvement that's heading in the right direction ? Or has it been another 2 years wasted ..... I for one don't see how they will be any better if the big Knobs don't get off their high horses and start looking around at the mess they have created ......

That's a good question but kind of......... frightening to think about. This incompetence has been non-stop for over a decade. During that time, there's been a few times where I thought things have come to a head and it can't continue. But every time it does continue.

 

[Illusion]

That's a good question but kind of......... frightening to think about. This incompetence has been non-stop for over a decade. During that time, there's been a few times where I thought things have come to a head and it can't continue. But every time it does continue.

That's exactly the problem .....

 

[Morgan]

Hi all when I said where do you see us in 5 years , it was more about the way things have been run by our management ...... For me if things stayed the same as it has for the last 7 years and they don't improve in all areas Board , Coaching , before recruiting , can't see us being competitive with the top sides ..... So the last 2 seasons under Hook , has there been improvement that's heading in the right direction ? Or has it been another 2 years wasted ..... I for one don't see how they will be any better if the big Knobs don't get off their high horses and start looking around at the mess they have created ......

On further reflection, I'm going to be the optimist.

I very much doubt this coach will last. The debacle with taking McGuire from the Cowboys so they could keep Nanai, the second rower who did his ACL against the Dragons several weeks ago and poach Leilua has surely taught even the idiot a good lesson which no one at the club will repeat again.

I also like the idea of the two, young assistants coming in. I don't know anything about those two but I like the idea. The don't have any baggage and hopefully that means no favourites.

I'm not confident about next year but I think from 2024, this will be a very serious team.

 

[Illusion]

On further reflection, I'm going to be the optimist.

I very much doubt this coach will last. The debacle with taking McGuire from the Cowboys so they could keep Nanai, the second rower who did his ACL against the Dragons several weeks ago and poach Leilua has surely taught even the idiot a good lesson which no one at the club will repeat again.

I also like the idea of the two, young assistants coming in. I don't know anything about those two but I like the idea. The don't have any baggage and hopefully that means no favourites.

I'm not confident about next year but I think from 2024, this will be a very serious team.

Let's hope ......

 

[RedV01]

On further reflection, I'm going to be the optimist.

I very much doubt this coach will last. The debacle with taking McGuire from the Cowboys so they could keep Nanai, the second rower who did his ACL against the Dragons several weeks ago and poach Leilua has surely taught even the idiot a good lesson which no one at the club will repeat again.

I also like the idea of the two, young assistants coming in. I don't know anything about those two but I like the idea. The don't have any baggage and hopefully that means no favourites.

I'm not confident about next year but I think from 2024, this will be a very serious team.

Hi all when I said where do you see us in 5 years , it was more about the way things have been run by our management ...... For me if things stayed the same as it has for the last 7 years and they don't improve in all areas Board , Coaching , before recruiting , can't see us being competitive with the top sides ..... So the last 2 seasons under Hook , has there been improvement that's heading in the right direction ? Or has it been another 2 years wasted ..... I for one don't see how they will be any better if the big Knobs don't get off their high horses and start looking around at the mess they have created ......

On thing is certain. By this point, it's almost reached the point where the only way is up.

 

[Morgan]

On thing is certain. By this point, it's almost reached the point where the only way is up.

Almost. Might hit rock bottom next year with the superstar hooker rotation of Macca and Liddle with Hook still at the helm.

 

[slip]

Same as the Eels, no grand final appearance. Hate to say it, the game has expanded that much, it's more about the non Sydney teams. You'll never see Eels v Dragons grand final again.