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Dragons confirm George Burgess won’t play in Rd 3 after ‘sexual touching’ charge
Dragons confirm George Burgess won’t play in Rd 3 after ‘sexual touching’ charge
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Not saying that he is actually guilty of anything but in reality we can't become embroiled in another Debelin type of criminal investigation![]()
Dragons confirm George Burgess won’t play in Rd 3 after ‘sexual touching’ charge
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We can't (become embroiled in another Debelin type of criminal investigation) but if he is proven innocent or no case to answer for.......Not saying that he is actually guilty of anything but in reality we can't become embroiled in another Debelin type of criminal investigation
It's the start of the season we have started extremely well the club and team just don't need another distraction. The only difference on this occasion is that he wasn't a starter and we have the depth to cover any stand down directive if it happensWe can't (become embroiled in another Debelin type of criminal investigation) but if he is proven innocent or no case to answer for.......
That's true but if the accusations turn out bogus, there really isn't anything the club can do short of telling players not to go within 2 metres of any female not your wife.It's the start of the season we have started extremely well the club and team just don't need another distraction. The only difference on this occasion is that he wasn't a starter and we have the depth to cover any stand down directive if it happens
You know back in the day it was it little more lax and how de doo de, never heard that, never saw that etc. But even then if it happened a second or third time then you were shown the door. That is back in the wild west days where fighting was not only condoned but encouraged, but nowadays with all the strict protocols even for drinking alcohol well by the time you reach maturity age you should know right from wrong and what is acceptable and what is not acceptable, it isn't rocket science and those who cannot abide by the laws of the league, the club or more importantly the team should be shown the exit door if proven of any wrong doing, just my viewsThat's true but if the accusations turn out bogus, there really isn't anything the club can do short of telling players not to go within 2 metres of any female not your wife.
Of course you are right but my point is that the females for whatever reason, money, attention, a grudge or whatever have been proven at times to make it up. I know De Belin's case basically came down to the word or 3 guys vs that of one woman and he should never have put himself in that situation but think the Brett Stewart case some years ago. It was a proven lie. Watch this space according to the Jaryd Hayne situation. He was abruptly released. Some new evidence has come to light? She got drunk and blurted something out which was recorded?You know back in the day it was it little more lax and how de doo de, never heard that, never saw that etc. But even then if it happened a second or third time then you were shown the door. That is back in the wild west days where fighting was not only condoned but encouraged, but nowadays with all the strict protocols even for drinking alcohol well by the time you reach maturity age you should know right from wrong and what is acceptable and what is not acceptable, it isn't rocket science and those who cannot abide by the laws of the league, the club or more importantly the team should be shown the exit door if proven of any wrong doing, just my views
Believe me I know very very well that each case stands alone on its own set of facts its just so frustrating having people who are intelligent placing themselves in positions of vulnerability, back in the day our younger players had a minder that the club paid for to ensure they stayed out of trouble if they went out as a group small or large nowadays well everyone is basically left to their own devicesOf course you are right but my point is that the females for whatever reason, money, attention, a grudge or whatever have been proven at times to make it up. I know De Belin's case basically came down the word or 3 guys vs that of one woman and he should never have put himself in that situation but think the Brett Stewart case some years ago. It was a proven lie. Watch this space according to the Jaryd Hayne situation. He was abruptly released. Some new evidence has come to light? She got drunk and blurted something out which was recorded?
If this is another of those type of situation, there is really nothing to be done. As far as I know Burgess isn't married or doesn't have a pregnant partner at home. He has even right to go to a bar and try to catch some female. Of course he doesn't have the right to group females against their wishes but as far as I know, he is denying it happened.
I agree with that...... if he did place himself in a position of vulnerability. Someone could be accused of groping while standing in line waiting to buy a meat pie.Believe me I know very very well that each case stands alone on its own set of facts its just so frustrating having people who are intelligent placing themselves in positions of vulnerability, back in the day our younger players had a minder that the club paid for to ensure they stayed out of trouble if they went out as a group small or large nowadays well everyone is basically left to their own devices
I agree with that...... if he did place himself in a position of vulnerability. Someone could be accused of groping while standing in line waiting to buy a meat pie.
Too many variables. The only way to proceed is innocent until proven guilty. As of now, he hasn't even been charged. If he isn't charged, i.e. there was nothing in it, maybe there needs to be an investigation. Is someone or some group trying to bring about bad publicity? Is Cronulla still sponsored by the porn king with links to organized crime?Believe me I know very very well that each case stands alone on its own set of facts its just so frustrating having people who are intelligent placing themselves in positions of vulnerability, back in the day our younger players had a minder that the club paid for to ensure they stayed out of trouble if they went out as a group small or large nowadays well everyone is basically left to their own devices
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/n...n/news-story/5dd38b16429b8f905ca76f2c42d0728d Has now been chargedToo many variables. The only way to proceed is innocent until proven guilty. As of now, he hasn't even been charged. If he isn't charged, i.e. there was nothing in it, maybe there needs to be an investigation. Is someone or some group trying to bring about bad publicity? Is Cronulla still sponsored by the porn king with links to organized crime?
Yep. Well I guess that means he's unavailable for Thursday's game?
De Belin's case wasn't simply their word against hers. The cops lied in order to bring charges because the case they had was so weak. And she admitted lying about one of the charges. And she was boasting about it the next day with her co-worker.Of course you are right but my point is that the females for whatever reason, money, attention, a grudge or whatever have been proven at times to make it up. I know De Belin's case basically came down to the word or 3 guys vs that of one woman and he should never have put himself in that situation but think the Brett Stewart case some years ago. It was a proven lie. Watch this space according to the Jaryd Hayne situation. He was abruptly released. Some new evidence has come to light? She got drunk and blurted something out which was recorded?
If this is another of those type of situation, there is really nothing to be done. As far as I know Burgess isn't married or doesn't have a pregnant partner at home. He has every right to go to a bar and try to catch some female. Of course he doesn't have the right to grope females against their wishes but as far as I know, he is denying it happened.
So did she go to the cops?De Belin's case wasn't simply their word against hers. The cops lied in order to bring charges because the case they had was so weak. And she admitted lying about one of the charges. And she was boasting about it the next day with her co-worker.
If it wasn't for the politics of the #me too movement in the US and the emotional element with his pregnant girlfriend at home, he'd never have been charged.
Not long ago I met a young female. One thing led to another and suddenly she was at my place disrobing. I was helping when she stopped me and said she was on her period. She still wanted it but I told her to wait a few days. I hate red wings. She was angry and the next day or the day after sent a message suggesting I tried to force her and she was thinking about going to the cops. I basically called her a psycho and told her to STFU and don't contact me again.
In this case, 'someone known to him' was 'touched' and a week to 10 days later decided to go to the cops. Sounds like the two of them were involved in something voluntary. She said, 'you're not my BF so no more'. When it became obvious to her, he was never going to be her BF, she got upset and went to the cops.
I know it's merely a guess but about the De Belin and my own experience is factual.
No idea. Doubt it. She didn't come across as unstable. Just angry about something and taking it out on me. But no sign of intercourse, a physical struggle or witnesses. So if I were a prominant St George player I would have gotten arrested for sure!So did she go to the cops?