jodragon40
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Yep he's been chargedSo did she go to the cops?
Yep he's been chargedSo did she go to the cops?
Innocent until proven guilty.Yep he's been charged
Agree but does this mean that he will be stood down?Innocent until proven guilty.
Can't imagine so. I'm only worried about Thursday's game. Specially if Woods is out. The stand down rule is only for very serious crimes. I don't think "touching" is that.Agree but does this mean that he will be stood down?
Carries imprisonment for up to 5yrs if found guilty nobody ever gets that but if the NRL stick to precedent they will order his stand down and if that's the case then there should be financial dispensation so we can bring in another player into our top 30. Time will tellCan't imagine so. I'm only worried about Thursday's game. Specially if Woods is out. The stand down rule is only for very serious crimes. I don't think "touching" is that.
5 years max usually means probation and a fine if found guilty.Carries imprisonment for up to 5yrs if found guilty nobody ever gets that but if the NRL stick to precedent they will order his stand down and if that's the case then there should be financial dispensation so we can bring in another player into our top 30. Time will tell
it does5 years max usually means probation and a fine if found guilty.
Mark my words the NRL will stand him down5 years max usually means probation and a fine if found guilty.
May be but personally I don't think so. This kind of thing has the possibility of dragging on for years. If De Belin were found guilty on all charges, it would have meant 20~life behind bars. Burgess faces a fine ~ 5 years. Slightly different. And also think about the possibility of it being abused. I read someone state one could be accused of groping while standing in line for a pie. How easy for a female (or even male) to say, 'pay me for it to go away or even if found not guilty, you'll be out of action for 2 years.'Mark my words the NRL will stand him down
Unfortunately thats the world we now live in. My view rightly or wrongly they will stand him down fearful of losing sponsors same as Debelin and they have set precedent in matters such as these, will be sad to lose him he could have contributed much to the cause as the season wore onMay be but personally I don't think so. This kind of thing has the possibility of dragging on for years. If De Belin were found guilty on all charges, it would have meant 20~life behind bars. Burgess faces a fine ~ 5 years. Slightly different. And also think about the possibility of it being abused. I read someone state one could be accused of groping while standing in line for a pie. How easy for a female (or even male) to say, 'pay me for it to go away or even if found not guilty, you'll be out of action for 2 years.'
It is the world we live in but surely standing one down for possibly groping is a little extreme.Unfortunately thats the world we now live in. My view rightly or wrongly they will stand him down fearful of losing sponsors same as Debelin and they have set precedent in matters such as these, will be sad to lose him he could have contributed much to the cause as the season wore on
Even more than that, imagine GF week, St George vs Penrith. Bookmakers have installed Saints as slight favourites. On the Monday Ben Hunt is accused of groping a 16 year-old girl waiting in line for an autograph, whose 17 year-old cousin witnessed it. Cops can't but charge him, NRL can't but stand him down. A month after the game which Saints lost, the girl drops the charges. We never learn the identity of the girls because they were underage but rumour has it they are the nieces of Johnny Elias who happened to bet a large sum on a Penrith win.May be but personally I don't think so. This kind of thing has the possibility of dragging on for years. If De Belin were found guilty on all charges, it would have meant 20~life behind bars. Burgess faces a fine ~ 5 years. Slightly different. And also think about the possibility of it being abused. I read someone state one could be accused of groping while standing in line for a pie. How easy for a female (or even male) to say, 'pay me for it to go away or even if found not guilty, you'll be out of action for 2 years.'
Who is Johnny Elias?Even more than that, imagine GF week, St George vs Penrith. Bookmakers have installed Saints as slight favourites. On the Monday Ben Hunt is accused of groping a 16 year-old girl waiting in line for an autograph, whose 17 year-old cousin witnessed it. Cops can't but charge him, NRL can't but stand him down. A month after the game which Saints lost, the girl drops the charges. We never learn the identity of the girls because they were underage but rumour has it they are the nieces of Johnny Elias who happened to bet a large sum on a Penrith win.
It risks turning the competition into a farce. It wouldn't surprise me if jodragon40 is right but if he is, the NRL is on a very slippery slope. Someone is going to take advantage of it.
An ex player, I think for Balmain and Wests (Before Wests Tigers). Not important. He's now (rumored to be, with some evidence) a somebody in western Sydney organized crime circles.Who is Johnny Elias?
Sounds like a stand-up dude. But you're right. That (a key player getting set up) happening isn't even far-fetched.An ex player, I think for Balmain and Wests (Before Wests Tigers). Not important. He's now (rumored to be, with some evidence) a somebody in western Sydney organized crime circles.
Some years ago there were some very unusual bets placed on a Cowboys vs Bulldogs game. It was near the end of the season. I think yet another wooden spoon for the Dogs and NQ weren't much better. Many 1000s of $ was bet on Cowboys to score first via a penalty goal. Right at the start of the game, the Bulldogs player, a chronic gambler, lost the ball and then flagrantly raked the ball out of the Cowboys player hands with 2 in the tackle right in front of the posts. It was the easiest 2 points ever but someone forgot to give JT the memo. He took a quick tap and Cowboys scored. Several Bulldogs and Cowboys players seemed upset about it.
Later the Bulldogs player was found guilty of something to do with betting fraud or match fixing or both. A year or two after that he was found dead from suicide, an OD or something like that. Was it the American style of committing suicide by shooting oneself twice in the back of the head? Don't know but John Elias was one who had bet $1000s on the first score being 2 points to NQ. He was questioned but not charged. Obviously he was in on it, probably the instigator but how can the cops prove it if he doesn't admit to it?
Agree but sponsors run the NRL not the NRLIt is the world we live in but surely standing one down for possibly groping is a little extreme.
Not beyond the realms of being factualEven more than that, imagine GF week, St George vs Penrith. Bookmakers have installed Saints as slight favourites. On the Monday Ben Hunt is accused of groping a 16 year-old girl waiting in line for an autograph, whose 17 year-old cousin witnessed it. Cops can't but charge him, NRL can't but stand him down. A month after the game which Saints lost, the girl drops the charges. We never learn the identity of the girls because they were underage but rumour has it they are the nieces of Johnny Elias who happened to bet a large sum on a Penrith win.
It risks turning the competition into a farce. It wouldn't surprise me if jodragon40 is right but if he is, the NRL is on a very slippery slope. Someone is going to take advantage of it.
When it comes to big games, this is a strategy to consider. You bet Sydney Rorters haven't ruled it out.Even more than that, imagine GF week, St George vs Penrith. Bookmakers have installed Saints as slight favourites. On the Monday Ben Hunt is accused of groping a 16 year-old girl waiting in line for an autograph, whose 17 year-old cousin witnessed it. Cops can't but charge him, NRL can't but stand him down. A month after the game which Saints lost, the girl drops the charges. We never learn the identity of the girls because they were underage but rumour has it they are the nieces of Johnny Elias who happened to bet a large sum on a Penrith win.
It risks turning the competition into a farce. It wouldn't surprise me if jodragon40 is right but if he is, the NRL is on a very slippery slope. Someone is going to take advantage of it.