Recruitment and Retention for 2023

Illusion

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Learn what actually. Widdop carried Hunt for his first few years.. only the past season and a half that Benny actually looks comfortable in the role.. since he took over the captaincy in fact. Sullivan has more natural individual skills than Ben.. not sure tho he is any better than the skipper with ball in hand.
I'd take the chance on Sully give him time in top grade swapping with Hunt 7 9 and he wont cost a mill a season ..... like you said it's taken Hunt 3 years to find some form , so give Sully 3 years then let's see .... I know which way I'd go and it's not Hunt for 3 more years and lose Sully .....
 

RedVHeartbeat

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The Mole saying we are looking at another wooden spooner, prop Zane Musgrove. Lenui must have knocked us back. We cant lure players from the major clubs.. only lowies, mostly the wooden spooners, with Liddle and now Musgrove, who has a reputation as a bit of a bad boy and hot head. How low have we fallen.
 
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Illusion

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Is the Mole credible. Has heard we are looking at another wooden spooner, prop Zane Musgrove. Nothing further re David Fifita or that Penrith prop Leniu. Please no he has a reputation as a bit of a bad boy..
Yep right up our ally , type of players they sign ..... What a basket case this club is ......
 

RedVHeartbeat

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“More than Redcliffe”: Dragons young gun hot property as rivals circle.​

This is what the League scribes are saying. Paul Kent even believes Tyrell has already had an offer from Bennett

.. 'hot property' yet we are prepared to let him go.
 
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Eric

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If that's the case, he did a very poor job of it. At one point Hunt was actually dropped, wasn't he? I'm not against Hunt. I think he's a good halfback. Played well this year. But he'll be 33 when next season starts, wants too much money and Sullivan deserves a chance.

And what is the club going to lose if Sullivan isn't the answer? How much success has the club found with Hunt over the past 5 years?
I'd take the chance on Sully give him time in top grade swapping with Hunt 7 9 and he wont cost a mill a season ..... like you said it's taken Hunt 3 years to find some form , so give Sully 3 years then let's see .... I know which way I'd go and it's not Hunt for 3 more years and lose Sully .....
Those are my thoughts exactly. I'm a Ben Hunt fan but well managed clubs make these big decisions. A player nearing the end of his career must be moved on to make way for a talented but as yet unproven young player. Dragons have the luxury of having them both in the team for 12 months. So if Sully doesn't work out, club has time to make plans for another option.
 

Illusion

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Those are my thoughts exactly. I'm a Ben Hunt fan but well managed clubs make these big decisions. A player nearing the end of his career must be moved on to make way for a talented but as yet unproven young player. Dragons have the luxury of having them both in the team for 12 months. So if Sully doesn't work out, club has time to make plans for another option.
Agree but Sully needs to be playing in top grade not lower grades otherwise we will never know ..... Not drop him if he makes a mistakes then don't see him again ....
 

RedVHeartbeat

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Agree but Sully needs to be playing in top grade not lower grades otherwise we will never know ..... Not drop him if he makes a mistakes then don't see him again ....
Precisely as he did with Sloan. Imagine how that knocks the confidence of a bloke still in nappies.. but with natural talent. When he was sent back to Ressies you could see how his body language had changed. Did Griffin ever factor in that Sloan may have been nervous making his first run of Firsts footy.
 
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Illusion

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Precisely as he did with Sloan. Imagine how that knocks the confidence of a bloke still in nappies.. but with natural talented. When he was sent back to Ressies you could see how his body language had changed. Did Griffin ever factor in that Sloan may have been nervous making his first run of Firsts footy.
Sloan and Sullivan should have been ready for next year with game time this year , but no , Hook was happy to leave them in lower grades .....
 

Morgan

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Sloan and Sullivan should have been ready for next year with game time this year , but no , Hook was happy to leave them in lower grades .....
After the they were no chance of making the finals but he still wouldn't give them a chance...... Madness. Illogical. Insane. Self defeating. Not sure how to explain it another way.
 

Chris M

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After the they were no chance of making the finals but he still wouldn't give them a chance...... Madness. Illogical. Insane. Self defeating. Not sure how to explain it another way.
Because Hook has made it very clear. His first loyalty is to Ben Hunt, McCullough and at that time, McGuire. He likes Mbye a lot as well. Hunt wants to play halfback at club level, McCullough thinks he is still first grade standard and McGuire didn't want to spend his last few NRL games in reserve grade. The last of those is somewhat ironic as Hook poached him out of QLD Cup.
 

Illusion

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Completely different from the young half from Souths , was having a shocker against us , the coach replaced him at half time , but would have worked on it at training and was back in first grade the next game and has continued to improve ..... If he had dropped him for the rest of the season like our bloke , how would he have improved , with his confidence shattered ...... And he is playing in a key position ...... I post this in another forum ( this in a nut shell )
 

Chris M

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Completely different from the young half from Souths , was having a shocker against us , the coach replaced him at half time , but would have worked on it at training and was back in first grade the next game and has continued to improve ..... If he had dropped him for the rest of the season like our bloke , how would he have improved , with his confidence shattered ...... And he is playing in a key position ...... I post this in another forum ( this in a nut shell )
Yep, that is exactly what happened and what has happened since. We all know Sullivan struggled in his one game at halfback. Though he wasn't that bad. A few kicks were just a metre or 2 too long. Unfortunate but it happens. He also ran a few times when he should have passed and vice versa. Well, it was his first game ever starting at halfback and really, he wasn't that bad.
 

RedVHeartbeat

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The simple fact is our worst ever coach's obsession with his broncos under 20s plus Bird has killed the RedV careers of two of our best young prospects in years. Hopefully not a third.. the last of the 'three amigos'.
 

RedVHeartbeat

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Completely different from the young half from Souths , was having a shocker against us , the coach replaced him at half time , but would have worked on it at training and was back in first grade the next game and has continued to improve ..... If he had dropped him for the rest of the season like our bloke , how would he have improved , with his confidence shattered ...... And he is playing in a key position ...... I post this in another forum ( this in a nut shell )
I also posted this elsewhere Illusion Illusion.
Sloan wont learn anything if he is not trained out of his flaws. Did Griffin and assistant give him any personal training after his shocker like the Rabbits coach gave his young half, and was he sacked. No the coaching staff had faith in their kid. Griffin is such a sh** coach and that is mild criticism.
 
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RedV01

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I also posted this elsewhere Illusion Illusion.
Sloan wont learn anything if he is not trained out of his flaws. Did Griffin and assistant give him any personal training after his shocker like the Rabbits coach gave his young half, and was he sacked. No the coaching staff had faith in their kid. Griffin is a sh** coach and that is mild criticism.
99.9% sure you mean "Griffin is such a shit coach". Which he is. Wasn't always the case but is now.
 
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Eric

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According to his record he has always been. Check it out, failure after failure from his early days in junior Qld footy.
Once upon a time, like Nathan Brown, he was very good at identifying and bringing talented players into the NRL even if he never threatened to win a premiership.

Anyway, let's keep in mind that at this point Hunt still hasn't been re-signed.
 

Illusion

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Once upon a time, like Nathan Brown, he was very good at identifying and bringing talented players into the NRL even if he never threatened to win a premiership.

Anyway, let's keep in mind that at this point Hunt still hasn't been re-signed.
I for one hope he doesn't if it means we lose the young .....
 
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