Recruitment and Retention for 2023

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
My views have always been that if you sign an old school coach like Griffin these types of coaches demand all the power. They care very little about any figurehead assistant coaches the front office or anyone else apart from the owners. His contract would have had such a clause of non interference written into it. This type of coach demands loyalty and obedience. He is on $450k next season, our dire predicament with salary cap issues means in reality the last thing the head office wants to do is pay him out. I went through something similar in the 90s and I can tell you at my level it took the team and club 3 yrs to recover, hence my continual highlighting of 2025 as being our next season that we will make the 8 and be competitive. It's so very sad.
Well the coach isn't subject to the salary cap. If he has such a clause in his contract, it means he better find success very soon otherwise it's on Albert and Webb to sack him. Who is Webb anyway? Where did he come from? Did they pick out some idiot of business school?
 
Well the coach isn't subject to the salary cap. If he has such a clause in his contract, it means he better find success very soon otherwise it's on Albert and Webb to sack him. Who is Webb anyway? Where did he come from? Did they pick out some idiot of business school?
Your not going to believe this but Webb was in fact for 3 yrs wait for it, drumroll, Chief Operating Officer for the Wests Tigers. See now why we have scrapheap Tiger players joining us? It's terrible
 

RedV01

SGI NSW Cup
Ruthless was the way FO treated George Burgess. Add heartless to their lack of people skills after the treatment given to Jack Gosiewski. Flicked from ever playing top grade for us because he put his pregnant wife ahead of footy. Any wonder our once great club is drowning in a cultural mire.
And the silence from the club regarding both of them is deafening. You wonder why the club can only recruit Tigers rejects?
 

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
And the silence from the club regarding both of them is deafening. You wonder why the club can only recruit Tigers rejects?
Fox speculating on the makeup of the team for round 1. It consists of:
  • The slowest backline in the history of the game.
  • Both players the wooden spooners didn't want and are subsidizing to play for the Dragons in the 17. Liddle starting.
  • No Sullivan or Sloan in the 17.
  • Fuimaono starting in the second row. Bird at lock. So may be the smallest pack in the history of the NRL.
In conclusion, if that's even close to the starting team for round 1, wooden spoon will be following Liddle and Musgrove from Wests Tigers.
 

Illusion

SGI Jersey Flegg
The whole club is on the nose ..... The blame has to go the Board members for no vision just happy to plod along , slapping each other on the back , then employing another puppet that they can control in Webb ...... If there was a change then most would be gone , the Youngs , Doust , Gordons , until then can't see the light at the end of the tunnel ...... Sad , sad situation ...... Getting to the stage that I won't follow this club anymore , do more fishing on the weekends , more satisfying .......
 
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RedV01

SGI NSW Cup
The whole club is on the nose ..... The blame has to go the Board members for no vision just happy to plod along , slapping each other on the back , then employing another puppet that they can control in Webb ...... If there was a change then most would be gone , the Youngs , Doust , Gordons , until then can't see the light at the end of the tunnel ...... Sad , sad situation ...... Getting to the stage that I won't follow this club anymore , do more fishing on the weekends , more satisfying .......
Great minds think alike? I stated a few days ago, I've spat the dummy at least 5 or 6 times over the last 10 years. Said something like, "THAT'S IT, I'M DONE!" but every time I come back around.

These days I often get angry or frustrated but I also just have to laugh sometimes. Look at it like you would a black comedy. Like, laugh and say apart form all the head knocks, WTF is wrong with Albert Young???
 

Illusion

SGI Jersey Flegg
Great minds think alike? I stated a few days ago, I've spat the dummy at least 5 or 6 times over the last 10 years. Said something like, "THAT'S IT, I'M DONE!" but every time I come back around.

These days I often get angry or frustrated but I also just have to laugh sometimes. Look at it like you would a black comedy. Like, laugh and say apart form all the head knocks, WTF is wrong with Albert Young???
Yea I know and I was use to the last 12 years of the same out come same shit , Dragons Footy , but I'm sick of not seeing any improvement , Same Shit all the time , same wankers making the same mistakes why and how the F**K would you extend Hook's contract without a ball been kicked ( it's not that he was being chased by other clubs ) the exact same thing they did with Mary , won 3 games in a row at the start of the comp then extended his contract ..... So don't be surprised because I'm not , if Hook starts off ok with a few wins and then they DO EXTEND his contract with Hunt calling the shots for Hook to stay on ..... Thats why he should go now ..... Said before if it's not Hook it's all playing out for Dean Young to come in ..... So frustrating 😤
 

Eric

Staff
Yea I know and I was use to the last 12 years of the same out come same shit , Dragons Footy , but I'm sick of not seeing any improvement , Same Shit all the time , same wankers making the same mistakes why and how the F**K would you extend Hook's contract without a ball been kicked ( it's not that he was being chased by other clubs ) the exact same thing they did with Mary , won 3 games in a row at the start of the comp then extended his contract ..... So don't be surprised because I'm not , if Hook starts off ok with a few wins and then they DO EXTEND his contract with Hunt calling the shots for Hook to stay on ..... Thats why he should go now ..... Said before if it's not Hook it's all playing out for Dean Young to come in ..... So frustrating 😤
I've said a few times, I was always, rightly or wrongly, a staunch defender of Hunt when he was copping from everyone under Mary.

But now, after one good year, open to debate how good it really was, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt. After one good year and suddenly he is publicly lecturing Sullivan about being his understudy until the latter is in his mid-20s and then trying to tell the club, and leaking it to the public (who else would it have been?) Griffin should be the coach long term.

What arrogance!! STFU and concentrate on being captain and chief playmaker of a good team for once!!:mad:

Can't believe they extended him on big money. For me the only debate was whether to extend on a greatly reduced salary or not offer him anything at all. Are we sure there isn't a option for the club in his last year, 2025?
 

Illusion

SGI Jersey Flegg
I've said a few times, I was always, rightly or wrongly, a staunch defender of Hunt when he was copping from everyone under Mary.

But now, after one good year, open to debate how good it really was, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt. After one good year and suddenly he is publicly lecturing Sullivan about being his understudy until the latter is in his mid-20s and then trying to tell the club, and leaking it to the public (who else would it have been?) Griffin should be the coach long term.

What arrogance!! STFU and concentrate on being captain and chief playmaker of a good team for once!!:mad:

Can't believe they extended him on big money. For me the only debate was whether to extend on a greatly reduced salary or not offer him anything at all. Are we sure there isn't a option for the club in his last year, 2025?
And boy will he cop it next year and beyond if he doesn't play as he did this year ..... I can't see him having the same sort of year , so there will be so much pressure on him to do so after his close to 850,000 a season ......
 

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
And boy will he cop it next year and beyond if he doesn't play as he did this year ..... I can't see him having the same sort of year , so there will be so much pressure on him to do so after his close to 850,000 a season ......
And no one will defend him except:
  • The head coach
  • The manager of the football department
  • The BOD
i.e. when it comes to the Dragons, everyone who matters!
 

RedVHeartbeat

SGI NSW Cup
How much of that was second party. I heard 100K, probably more.. and who is paying it?
so much pressure on him

What irks me no end is that if he does stink it up next season there is no recourse as we are stuck with him for two more years. Jesus you FO knob heads he already had a year still to run so why not extend him for only one more.. be better for Sully or next half cab off the rank plus best for the club too.
 

Chris M

SGI NSW Cup
How much of that was second party. I heard 100K, probably more.. and who is paying it?


What irks me no end is that if he does stink it up next season there is no recourse as we are stuck with him for two more years. Jesus you FO knob heads he already had a year still to run so why not extend him for only one more.. be better for Sully or next half cab off the rank plus best for the club too.
I heard he was 950k total.
 

Morgan

SGI NSW Cup
And boy will he cop it next year and beyond if he doesn't play as he did this year ..... I can't see him having the same sort of year , so there will be so much pressure on him to do so after his close to 850,000 a season ......
I heard he was 950k total.
Maybe it's 850 out of the cap and an extra 100k is TPAs. 850k a year out of the cap for a 34 year-old in the first year and 35 in the second is just mental! Even for someone who relies on setting up the players around him with excellent ball-playing, which Hunt doesn't do, it's too much. Personally I very much doubt Hunt will be first grade standard in 2025.
 

Ryan

SGI Jersey Flegg
Maybe it's 850 out of the cap and an extra 100k is TPAs. 850k a year out of the cap for a 34 year-old in the first year and 35 in the second is just mental! Even for someone who relies on setting up the players around him with excellent ball-playing, which Hunt doesn't do, it's too much. Personally I very much doubt Hunt will be first grade standard in 2025.
If Griffin has any say in the matter, Hunt will still be halfback in 2025 no matter his form.
 
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