Not really you look what a player like cam Murry does for Souths smaller runs straight makes 3 times the meters
Round 7 St George Illawarra vs Canberra
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jodragon40
SGI NSW Cup
He doesn't, in 6 games he has made 2 line breaks but he is invaluable to a coach because he is a workhorse that every pack needs. In fact name any of our forwards that actually strike fear into the hearts of the opposition forward pack when they run the ball up.
RedVHeartbeat
SGI NSW Cup
Who cares if he makes 130m every game. Block is an old fashioned prop, ball under the wing and power into the defense. He may not break the line often but he makes a decent dent in it.
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
True but they are different kinds of players.
No front rowers if they have a good hooker sound only miss maybe one or 2 Game
jodragon40
SGI NSW Cup
The quality teams have hooker who can tackle in defence but also have speed in attack and quick hands and crisp passes that can clear the ruck area quickly.
Well it seems there not striking any fear anywhere, there losing, been losing since 2010
RedVHeartbeat
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Is improving, I'd not say it is good yet.
I'm a mad st George fan have been since my dad put a jumper on me 50 years ago as a kid , and said Harry bath best thing he ever seen, so wow not alot has happened in that 50 years
Eric
Staff
Today he was good in attack. Not so much last week.
RedVHeartbeat
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Liddle is all of those things that I can see, but is not quite in the quality class and doubt he ever will be. He does need some ball skills once he splits the defense.. like a Kerrod Walters for instance. Then he may become quality.
jodragon40
SGI NSW Cup
In today's game which is far more quicker than in my coaching days quality teams run straight at your hooker in the middle of the ruck and on the edges straight at your playmakers. Without looking at the stat's even the best rated hooker would miss 4/5 tackles out of every 30 they have to make. Slow starts to the season by for example the Storm means to me that their hooker Grant would be missing more tackles than last season. You have to remember in the ruck area your hooker shouldn't be making many 1 on 1 tackles if he is you need to adjust your defensive structures
RedVHeartbeat
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BTW mate welcome to the forum. A man after my own heart, first started supporting the REDV at boarding school, more than 50 years ago, mostly out of loneliness. I think my username says it all about me and the Dragons.
jodragon40
SGI NSW Cup
Liddle is definitely quicker and more dangerous in attack than McCullough ever was. The problem here is he needs to be playing as close to 80 min as possible and he isn't. I know perhaps he is short of match fitness but, this week he only played 40 min, last week 34 min. You can't have your starting hooker playing such small minutes
jodragon40
SGI NSW Cup
See my reply to redv comments below
I don't know if you ever watched cam Smith play for Melbourne, never had too wash his jersey
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
The biggest issue with Liddle and a few others is the lack of minutes they play.