St George Illawarra in 2023

Eric

Staff

Nerd’s View: St George Illawarra must revamp ‘one-pass hit-up’ attack to avoid sliding further down NRL ladder​

While their defence was relatively poor last season, St George Illawarra’s only hope of defying their critics to have a successful 2022 is to fix their attack.

In the first in a series analysing where each team needs to improve this season, the numbers show St George Illawarra Dragons failed to fire with the ball in hand during a pedestrian first season in attack under coach Anthony Griffin. They lacked creativity, favouring a one-pass hit-up more than any other side. The Dragons were 11th for points scored per game last year at 19.8, mirroring their finishing position on the ladder with an 8-16 record and a -142 differential.

If you delve deeper into their attacking stats, they were probably lucky to finish that high and it’s not hard to see why they are predicted to finish among the also-rans this year. They are ranked equal second-last in PlayUp’s NRL premiership market at $41 alongside the Warriors with only the Wests Tigers considered a longer shot at $51.

Last season they struggled to get the ball to the attacking end of the field. They were 15th in running metres with 1333 per game, ahead of only wooden spooners Canterbury’s 1317 and 14th in tackle busts at 26.3 (ahead of the Cowboys’ 24.9 and the Bulldogs’ 21.2).

Despite their structured style in which they did more one-pass hit-ups than anyone else with 66.8 each outing, they still managed to make the most errors (11.7) to be 14th in completion rate at 76%, marginally ahead of only Manly with the Roosters last with 75%. This resulted in them being second-worst in the amount of times they were tackled in the opposition 20m zone, averaging 24 per game to just edge out Brisbane’s 22.

And on the rare occasions that they got into prime attacking position they struggled to convert those chances, ending up 15th for attacking kicks at 8 per game ahead of South Sydney’s 7.4 (although the Rabbitohs didn’t need to kick that often with the high number of tries they scored through sweeping passing raids).

The Dragons couldn’t even get the ball back when they didn’t score, ranking the worst in the league for forced drop-outs with just one per game. In the defensive department they are far from elite – their faltering attacking meant they made the second-most tackles per game at 323.9 behind the Warriors (324.2). This was compounded by the Dragons missing 34.2 tackles each match, behind only Cronulla (34.4) and North Queensland (36.8).

Griffin will again place his faith in captain Ben Hunt to be the fulcrum of the team’s attack in 2022. Veteran hooker Andrew McCullough is a defensive-minded rake while the other two members of their spine will be young prospects still finding their feet at NRL level – fullback Tyrell Sloan and Jayden Sullivan or Junior Amone at five-eighth.

The three young Steelers juniors, who have each been re-signed for the next couple of seasons at last, showed enough in their rookie season last year that they are attacking threats. St George Illawarra will focus heavily on their array of young prospects headed by this trio with twins Max and Mat Feagai in the outside backs also set for more game time.

As part of their new roster they have bolstered their pack with Maroons duo Francis Molo and Jaydn Su’A, ex-Sharks prop Aaron Woods, Manly second-rower Jack Gosiewski and English front-rower George Burgess out of retirement. The club has farewelled hooker Cameron McInnes – who did not play last season due to a torn ACL – to Cronulla, fullback Matt Dufty and controversial prop Paul Vaughan to Canterbury and erratic five-eighth Corey Norman has retired after failing to attract a contract.

Outside backs Jordan Pereira (Broncos), Brayden Wiliame (French rugby) and Gerard Beale (Brisbane Tigers), half Adam Clune (Knights) and front-rower Kaide Ellis (Wigan) have also departed.

Whether this roster revamp pays dividends remains to be seen but if the Dragons cannot find their attacking spark.

It seems the lack of grunt and go forward upfront hasn't escaped notice from quite a few people. I guess it was obvious. Personally I didn't realise until recently it was as bad as it indeed was.
 

RedV01

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resign Burns, Ford, Lawrie, O’Ofou and hopefully Bird but not more than 500~600k a year. Unless the other 4 have breakout seasons this season, they won't cost a lot to keep.
Fuimaono is also on the books. He was really good last season.
 

jodragon40

SGI NSW Cup

Nerd’s View: St George Illawarra must revamp ‘one-pass hit-up’ attack to avoid sliding further down NRL ladder​

While their defence was relatively poor last season, St George Illawarra’s only hope of defying their critics to have a successful 2022 is to fix their attack.

In the first in a series analysing where each team needs to improve this season, the numbers show St George Illawarra Dragons failed to fire with the ball in hand during a pedestrian first season in attack under coach Anthony Griffin. They lacked creativity, favouring a one-pass hit-up more than any other side. The Dragons were 11th for points scored per game last year at 19.8, mirroring their finishing position on the ladder with an 8-16 record and a -142 differential.

If you delve deeper into their attacking stats, they were probably lucky to finish that high and it’s not hard to see why they are predicted to finish among the also-rans this year. They are ranked equal second-last in PlayUp’s NRL premiership market at $41 alongside the Warriors with only the Wests Tigers considered a longer shot at $51.

Last season they struggled to get the ball to the attacking end of the field. They were 15th in running metres with 1333 per game, ahead of only wooden spooners Canterbury’s 1317 and 14th in tackle busts at 26.3 (ahead of the Cowboys’ 24.9 and the Bulldogs’ 21.2).

Despite their structured style in which they did more one-pass hit-ups than anyone else with 66.8 each outing, they still managed to make the most errors (11.7) to be 14th in completion rate at 76%, marginally ahead of only Manly with the Roosters last with 75%. This resulted in them being second-worst in the amount of times they were tackled in the opposition 20m zone, averaging 24 per game to just edge out Brisbane’s 22.

And on the rare occasions that they got into prime attacking position they struggled to convert those chances, ending up 15th for attacking kicks at 8 per game ahead of South Sydney’s 7.4 (although the Rabbitohs didn’t need to kick that often with the high number of tries they scored through sweeping passing raids).

The Dragons couldn’t even get the ball back when they didn’t score, ranking the worst in the league for forced drop-outs with just one per game. In the defensive department they are far from elite – their faltering attacking meant they made the second-most tackles per game at 323.9 behind the Warriors (324.2). This was compounded by the Dragons missing 34.2 tackles each match, behind only Cronulla (34.4) and North Queensland (36.8).

Griffin will again place his faith in captain Ben Hunt to be the fulcrum of the team’s attack in 2022. Veteran hooker Andrew McCullough is a defensive-minded rake while the other two members of their spine will be young prospects still finding their feet at NRL level – fullback Tyrell Sloan and Jayden Sullivan or Junior Amone at five-eighth.

The three young Steelers juniors, who have each been re-signed for the next couple of seasons at last, showed enough in their rookie season last year that they are attacking threats. St George Illawarra will focus heavily on their array of young prospects headed by this trio with twins Max and Mat Feagai in the outside backs also set for more game time.

As part of their new roster they have bolstered their pack with Maroons duo Francis Molo and Jaydn Su’A, ex-Sharks prop Aaron Woods, Manly second-rower Jack Gosiewski and English front-rower George Burgess out of retirement. The club has farewelled hooker Cameron McInnes – who did not play last season due to a torn ACL – to Cronulla, fullback Matt Dufty and controversial prop Paul Vaughan to Canterbury and erratic five-eighth Corey Norman has retired after failing to attract a contract.

Outside backs Jordan Pereira (Broncos), Brayden Wiliame (French rugby) and Gerard Beale (Brisbane Tigers), half Adam Clune (Knights) and front-rower Kaide Ellis (Wigan) have also departed.

Whether this roster revamp pays dividends remains to be seen but if the Dragons cannot find their attacking spark.

It seems the lack of grunt and go forward upfront hasn't escaped notice from quite a few people. I guess it was obvious. Personally I didn't realise until recently it was as bad as it indeed was.
As an old old coach it was very obvious to me . I am still concerned with the lack of attacking option from dummy half McCullough is an outstanding defender I believed he was in top 3 tacklers last season. Unpredictability is in my view important when attacking that could be our archilles heel again this season the teams that excelled in the past few seasons have had that speed from dummy half taking on tired forwards in the last 10 - 15 mins of each half
 

Eric

Staff
As an old old coach it was very obvious to me . I am still concerned with the lack of attacking option from dummy half McCullough is an outstanding defender I believed he was in top 3 tacklers last season. Unpredictability is in my view important when attacking that could be our archilles heel again this season the teams that excelled in the past few seasons have had that speed from dummy half taking on tired forwards in the last 10 - 15 mins of each half
Good point. I wonder of that is what Mbye was brought in for? To give McCullough a rest and hopefully provide a little more attacking spark. Though McCullough is a proven 80min player. It might be a shame waste an interchange in such a way.

Can't wait until the trails to see what Griffin is planning.
 

jodragon40

SGI NSW Cup
BIG DREAD VEE
St George Illawarra Dragons fans, please blame the crystal ball and not your correspondent. I see a four-way battle for the wooden spoon between the Tigers, Cowboys, Warriors – and, yes, the Dragons. Anthony Griffin hasn’t really improved his team and the lack of resolve over the past few years makes you wonder where this proud club is heading.


This is according to Phillip Rothfield. He also predicted Shonkies to finish 5th! So I'm just leaving it here so we can laugh at the absurdity as the season progresses.
I disagree he identified that our engine room was working on 3 cylinders instead of 6 and recruited accordingly. We will be the surprise packet this season
 

Chris M

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I disagree he identified that our engine room was working on 3 cylinders instead of 6 and recruited accordingly. We will be the surprise packet this season
I think Rothfield might have been drunk (again) when he said Hook hasn't improved the squad on last year. Norman for Amone and Sloan for Duty alone are huge improvements.
 

jodragon40

SGI NSW Cup
Good point. I wonder of that is what Mbye was brought in for? To give McCullough a rest and hopefully provide a little more attacking spark. Though McCullough is a proven 80min player. It might be a shame waste an interchange in such a way.

Can't wait until the trails to see what Griffin is planning.
Agree McCullough is an 80 min player but if there isn't that need then I personally cannot see why you couldn't bring on a small fast player for the last 15 min of each half as an attacking impact player . My personal opinion is Sullivan or Amone miss out on starting 13 then why not use them in this manner both can't play 5/8 or alternatively Hunt to hooker Amone/ Sullivan/ Bird 1/2 5/8 combination just the thoughts of an old fella
 

Eric

Staff
Agree McCullough is an 80 min player but if there isn't that need then I personally cannot see why you couldn't bring on a small fast player for the last 15 min of each half as an attacking impact player . My personal opinion is Sullivan or Amone miss out on starting 13 then why not use them in this manner both can't play 5/8 or alternatively Hunt to hooker Amone/ Sullivan/ Bird 1/2 5/8 combination just the thoughts of an old fella
I've also thought about that but I'm not sure playing young guys out of position is best for their development if they aren't meant to take on that position on a more permanent basis.
 

RedV01

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I've also thought about that but I'm not sure playing young guys out of position is best for their development if they aren't meant to take on that position on a more permanent basis.
That was done with Lomax but he hasn't turned out so bad.
 

jodragon40

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That was done with Lomax but he hasn't turned out so bad.
Technically you are correct however if and I have heard this during my coaching years, but coach I dont care where I play, I just want to play, wherever, as long as it helps the team and my mates. Thats what I loved hearing from a young fella trying to break into 1st's, tried to find a spot if I could as close to their specialist position
 

Eric

Staff
Technically you are correct however if and I have heard this during my coaching years, but coach I dont care where I play, I just want to play, wherever, as long as it helps the team and my mates. Thats what I loved hearing from a young fella trying to break into 1st's, tried to find a spot if I could as close to their specialist position
That was done with Lomax but he hasn't turned out so bad.
It's a good point but I'm not so sure playing Lomax in the second row helped the team. Ditto for Sullivan at hooker. Well, I think Lomax in the second row definitely didn't help the team. Not sure about Sullivan. The idea (bringing him on to play hooker after around 30min) has merits but I wouldn't like to see him in the middle regularly getting trampled by 120kg + opposition forwards.
 

jodragon40

SGI NSW Cup
It's a good point but I'm not so sure playing Lomax in the second row helped the team. Ditto for Sullivan at hooker. Well, I think Lomax in the second row definitely didn't help the team. Not sure about Sullivan. The idea (bringing him on to play hooker after around 30min) has merits but I wouldn't like to see him in the middle regularly getting trampled by 120kg + opposition forwards.
Agree
 

GCRV

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It's a good point but I'm not so sure playing Lomax in the second row helped the team. Ditto for Sullivan at hooker. Well, I think Lomax in the second row definitely didn't help the team. Not sure about Sullivan. The idea (bringing him on to play hooker after around 30min) has merits but I wouldn't like to see him in the middle regularly getting trampled by 120kg + opposition forwards.
It probably depends on how good the attack is vs the defence. Hunt at hooker and Sullivan #7 is also a possibility.
 

jodragon40

SGI NSW Cup

NRL 2022: St George Illawarra Dragons season preview, roster analysis, predicted finish​

St George Illawarra Dragons have overhauled their squad after another fadeout last season, but will it be enough for them to push for a finals berth in 2022?

St George Illawarra will enter 2022 with a new-look squad after fading to finish outside the top 8 for the third straight year in 2021. Nick Campton takes a deep dive into how St George Illawarra are shaping up for 2022.

2022 SQUAD

Daniel Alvaro, Junior Amone, Jack Bird, George Burgess, Billy Burns, Jack de Belin, Poasa Faamausili, Mat Feagai, Max Feagai, Jackson Ford, Tyrell Fuimaono, Jack Gosiewski, Ben Hunt, Josh Kerr, Blake Lawrie, Zac Lomax, Moses Mbye, Andrew McCullough, Josh McGuire, Tautau Moga, Francis Molo, Cody Ramsey, Mikaele Ravalawa, Tariq Sims, Tyrell Sloan, Jaydn Su’A, Moses Suli, Jayden Sullivan, Aaron Woods.

INS: Francis Molo (Cowboys), Aaron Woods (Sharks), Moses Mbye (Tigers), Jaydn Su’A (Rabbitohs), Tautau Moga (Rabbitohs), Moses Suli (Sea Eagles), Jack Gosiewski (Sea Eagles).

OUTS: Tyran Wishart (Storm), Cameron McInnes (Sharks) Matt Dufty (Bulldogs), Paul Vaughan (Bulldogs), Adam Clune (Knights), Jordan Pereira (Broncos), Kaide Ellis (Wigan)

Brayden Wiliame (USA Perpignan), Gerard Beale (released), Billy Brittain (released), Hayden Lomax (released), Corey Norman (released), Trent Merrin (retired).


Judging by ins and outs, we will be far stronger next year. McInnes is the only NRL regular and IMO he was always overrated.

1. Tyrell Sloan
2. Mikaele Ravalawa
3. Zac Lomax
4. Moses Suli
5. Mathew Feagai
6. Talatau Amone
7. Ben Hunt
8. Blake Lawrie
9. Andrew McCullough
10. Jack de Belin
11. Tariq Sims
12. Jaydn Su’A
13. Jack Bird
14. Moses Mbye
15. Josh McGuire
16. Francis Molo
17. Tyrell Fuimaono

SQUAD STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

STRENGTHS
: There’s plenty of depth in the forwards. Aaron Woods is still a very capable NRL prop but there might not be room for him in the club’s best 17, George Burgess faces a similarly uphill battle to play NRL week in, week out and Josh Kerr also might struggle to crack the side. After their lack of depth was exposed last season, the Dragons should not face such dramas again.

WEAKNESSES: Andrew McCullough is still a tough, honest player, but can he provide the creativity out of hooker the St George Illawarra need? The former Bronco is a rugged defender but his attacking spark has somewhat deserted him in recent years. With Moses Mbye the only other player in the squad who can line up at No.9 it’s a concern.

Unless the team is really killing it with Hunt at halfback, I reckon in the event of injury to McCullough, Hunt will go to hooker and Sullivan to halfback.

COACH STATUS AND SAFETY RATING

With just one season at the Dragons under his belt and in the midst of a clean-out, Anthony Griffin should be safe for at least one more season. Before the infamous barbecue tore the heart out of St George Illawarra’s season they were on track to defy the odds and make the finals, and even in the aftermath Griffin managed to blood plenty of youngsters who will form part of the club’s next generation of stars. There are plenty of new faces and moving parts for the Red V in 2022 and it might take some time for all the pieces to fit — but if the wooden spoon favourites match the bookie’s expectations for them early on, the drums will start beating for Griffin.

GAME PLAN/WHAT THEY NEED TO TWEAK

COACH STATUS AND SAFETY RATING


With just one season at the Dragons under his belt and in the midst of a clean-out, Anthony Griffin should be safe for at least one more season. Before the infamous barbecue tore the heart out of St George Illawarra’s season they were on track to defy the odds and make the finals, and even in the aftermath Griffin managed to blood plenty of youngsters who will form part of the club’s next generation of stars. There are plenty of new faces and moving parts for the Red V in 2022 and it might take some time for all the pieces to fit — but if the wooden spoon favourites match the bookie’s expectations for them early on, the drums will start beating for Griffin.

GAME PLAN/WHAT THEY NEED TO TWEAK

St George Illawarra must improve their defence before they do anything else. Their strong start to the year was built on keeping their line intact but things degenerated as the year went on in — 13 of their last 14 games for 2021 they conceded more than 20 points. Defensive resolve comes from combinations and attitude, two qualities that were sorely lacking down the stretch, but the good news for Griffin is if he can find his best 17 and stick with it, there should be a natural improvement for the Dragons on the defensive side of the ball.

FREE AGENCY WRAP AND RATING

In landing two Origin forwards (Francis Molo and Jaydn Su’A), St George Illawarra Dragons should have a little more muscle up-front with Su’A in particular producing his best season in first grade last year. Woods provides a strong veteran presence and will be good for culture, as will Mbye, although exactly what role the former Tigers skipper plays for his new club remains to be seen.

WHICH PLAYER CAN THEY REINVENT? MOSES SULI

It can be easy to forget Suli is still just 23. The former Tiger and Sea Eagle has been through plenty in his short NRL career but is still yet to realize the prodigious talent that earned him a deal worth $1.3 million before he’d played first grade. There were glimpses of Suli’s attacking talent in his four years at Manly that were undercut by defensive issues but there is undoubtedly plenty of good football in him somewhere. If Griffin can get the best out of him, Suli could end the year as one of the most damaging centres in the NRL.

I've been pretty consistent in wondering what this guy is going to be doing? I'd have both Feagai's ahead of him.


WILL DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT UPGRADED KIDS MAKE AN IMPACT? TYRELL SLOAN

Sloan was the diamond St George Illawarra discovered in the rough patch after their season fell apart. Despite beginning the season in SG Ball, Sloan looked right at home in the top grade and crossed for six tries in five games while justifying the club’s decision to move on from Matt Dufty. A languid athlete who always seems to have time, with another pre-season Sloan will take a huge step forward in 2022.

WHO TAKES THE NEXT STEP? JACK BIRD

After years plagued by injury, Bird managed to play 22 of 24 games last season and was quietly one of the club’s best players after the competition relocated to Queensland. After years of migrating through the line-up, Bird will spend 2022 as a ball-playing middle forward and perhaps that’s where he was supposed to be all along. With his skill, footwork and ability to beat defenders, Bird will add a new dimension to the Dragons forward play and could well hit career-best form should his body hold up.

IT’S A BIG YEAR FOR ... JACK DE BELIN

De Belin was solid on return for the Dragons last year but the club will have high expectations for 2022 given his salary upgrade during his 2½ years on the sidelines as he faced sexual assault chargers that were ultimately dropped. With plenty of competition for spots and the Dragons needing results from the jump, de Belin will have to prove he’s still got what it takes to be a top-class NRL middle.

CAPTAINCY CONTENDERS — BEN HUNT

Given the pressure and scrutiny Hunt attracts due to his monster contract it was a little surprising for Griffin to hand him the captaincy but Hunt thrived with the responsibility, producing his best year as a Dragon even as things fell apart around him. The Queenslander leads with his words and by example, and was at the heart of everything good about the club in 2021. He’ll be the big man on campus for as long as he wants.

WHERE THEY FINISH IN 2022 — 10TH

Wooden spoon talk is a little wide of the mark for the Dragons — there is too much raw talent here for them to bottom out completely, and Griffin has won at least 10 matches in every season he’s coached in the NRL. The finals may a bit beyond them, but they will be in the mix until the final few weeks of the regular season.

FOX SPORTS LAB’S AARON WALLACE SAYS ...

2021 was the third straight season missing the finals for St George Illawarra. Since Wayne Bennett left at the end of the 2011 season they have made the finals just twice in 10 years.

Their 2021 season was ultimately derailed due to the notorious barbecue scandal which saw the club finish the season with eight straight losses, their most in club history. Three of their four first choice spine from the start of the season will not be at the club in 2022 but will be buoyed by end of season form of season debutant Tyrell Sloan, who became the first St George Illawarra player to score in his first five games (six tries).

This is more optimistic than many of the predictions but I still they are underestimating us.
Obviously McGuire cant be there for first 6 rounds so I would replace him with Debelin who is NOT a prop. I would rotate Burgess/Woods/Molo as our props Lawrie could rotate off the bench as 2nd rower with Goliewski
 

RedV01

SGI NSW Cup
Obviously McGuire cant be there for first 6 rounds so I would replace him with Debelin who is NOT a prop. I would rotate Burgess/Woods/Molo as our props Lawrie could rotate off the bench as 2nd rower with Goliewski
Why do you rate Goliewski? I don't think he'll get anywhere near the NRL this year.
 

Morgan

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Why do you rate Goliewski? I don't think he'll get anywhere near the NRL this year.
A little harsh. He is similar to Jackson Ford in that if he was 10cm taller and 10kg heavier, he'd be a star.
Obviously McGuire cant be there for first 6 rounds so I would replace him with Debelin who is NOT a prop. I would rotate Burgess/Woods/Molo as our props Lawrie could rotate off the bench as 2nd rower with Goliewski
Is that a typo? Lawrie is an out and out frontrower and it's the only position he can play. de Belin is best at lock but I think he has the ability to play anywhere in the pack.
 

jodragon40

SGI NSW Cup
A little harsh. He is similar to Jackson Ford in that if he was 10cm taller and 10kg heavier, he'd be a star.

Is that a typo? Lawrie is an out and out frontrower and it's the only position he can play. de Belin is best at lock but I think he has the ability to play anywhere in the pack.
I never believed he was a front rower still dont, middle forward 2nd row . I most definitely wouldn't be starting Lawrie as starting prop, off bench at best. I can imagine with our engine room that has McCullough, Molo, Debelin and Woods those 4 with a tackling efficiency ratings are all above 95% so that equates to 1 missed tackle every 10 it would make life very hard for the opposition In attack. I envisage 1st/ 2nd hit ups in a handover situation either Burgess/Woods/ Molo 3rd hit up Debelin/Sims should have the defensive line back peddling. Hit up one side open up the field for the playmakers and backs. Obviously returning the ball from open play different 1st hit up fullback or winger.
RL hasn't changed that much. Coach does his homework identifies defensive line weak spots and target. Just my view
 
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