Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
I forgot about him. He was good this year as well. Lots of good halfbacks at present. But evidently not enough to fill 17 teams.Actually Nicho Hynes has better stats than the both of them.
I forgot about him. He was good this year as well. Lots of good halfbacks at present. But evidently not enough to fill 17 teams.Actually Nicho Hynes has better stats than the both of them.
Maybe Sloan can look at Gutherson as a good example. Tell him something like "train as hard and try as hard as he does and you will be a superstar."I'm going to disagree here. I think he's (Gutherson) massively overrated. He's like Ramsey. Tenacious and puts 110% into pretty much everything he does but lacks the talent of the best fullbacks. Or best potential fullbacks like Sloan.
But he has to beat out Tedesco and Mitchell. We know how terrible he was when picked in the centres for NSW. Dylan Edwards is better than Gutherson, IMO.Gutherson is 28.. has reached and passed his potential. Just saying he is a consistently good custodian and deserves a Kangaroo cap. We all know electors love premiership winners, so if the Eels take home the Provan-Summons Trophy we may well see both Gutho and Moses leapfrog the incumbents.
Mahony has to beat out Hunt and Grant. Matterson is a Parramatta interchange forward. Shaun Lane is a strong possibility. On form, he'd be the first second rower picked.A few more Parra bolters. Reed Mahoney, (hooker) Ryan Matterson (lock) Shaun Lane (second row)
Agree about Sloan , but , the Parra guy is a very good fullback ..... But Respect as always other opinions .....I'm going to disagree here. I think he's (Gutherson) massively overrated. He's like Ramsey. Tenacious and puts 110% into pretty much everything he does but lacks the talent of the best fullbacks. Or best potential fullbacks like Sloan.
Don't these stats indicate, not including Hunt, Mahony is the 4th best hooker in the competition?Made 55 tackles in the prelim final. So from that we know he is a better defender than Hunt. Not looked at stats maybe better even than Grant. I did say Mahoney was my bolter. Cook is the fly in the ointment. No stats on Ben.
Season stats: Zero Tackle.
Hunt: Only plays in the position 3/4 times a year.??
Mahoney: 24 games, 8 tries, 5 try assists, 6 linebreak assists, 32 run metres + 42 tackles per game season
Grant: 20 games, 7 tries, 16 try assists, 14 linebreak assists, 91 run metres + 40 tackles per game
Cook: 20 games, 8 tries, 7 try assists, 10 linebreak assists, 8 linebreaks, 81 run metres + 46 tackles per game
Robson: 24 games, 7 tries, 7 try assists, 6 linebreak assists, 74 run metres + 42 tackles per game
Melbourne probably control possession better than most other teams. How many missed tackles?I did say Mahoney was my bolter if the Eels win.I think it will be out of these two.
Grant: 20 games, 7 tries, 16 try assists, 14 linebreak assists, 91 run metres + 40 tackles per game
Cook: 20 games, 8 tries, 7 try assists, 10 linebreak assists, 8 linebreaks, 81 run metres + 46 tackles per game
Notice Grant makes the least tackles per game.
Nations that have named their full squads to date: Should these go in the WC GAMES thread instead.
NEW ZEALAND
- Nelson Asofa-Solomona (Melbourne Storm)
- Jesse Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
- Kenny Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
- Dylan Brown (Parramatta Eels)
- James Fisher-Harris (Penrith Panthers)
- Kieran Foran (Manly Sea Eagles)
- Braden Hamlin-Uele (Cronulla Sharks)
- Corey Harawira-Naera (Canberra Raiders)
- Peta Hiku (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Jahrome Hughes (Melbourne Storm)
- Shaun Johnson (New Zealand Warriors)
- Seb Kris (Canberra Raiders)
- Moses Leota (Penrith Panthers)
- Isaac Liu (Gold Coast Titans)
- Joseph Manu (Sydney Roosters)
- Jeremy Marshall-King (Canterbury Bulldogs)
- Te Maire Martin (Brisbane Broncos)
- Ken Maumalo (Wests Tigers)
- Ronaldo Mulitalo (Cronulla Sharks)
- Griffin Neame (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad (Canberra Raiders)
- Briton Nikora (Cronulla Sharks)
- Kodi Nikorima (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
- Marata Niukore (Parramatta Eels)
- Isaiah Papali'i (Parramatta Eels)
- Jordan Rapana (Canberra Raiders)
- Jordan Riki (Brisbane Broncos)
- Bailey Simonsson (Parramatta Eels)
- Brandon Smith (Melbourne Storm)
- Scott Sorensen (Penrith Panthers)
- Joseph Tapine (Canberra Raiders)
- Matthew Timoko (Canberra Raiders)
- Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (Sydney Roosters)
- Dallin Watene-Zelezniak (New Zealand Warriors)
Strong squad!NEW ZEALAND
- Nelson Asofa-Solomona (Melbourne Storm)
- Jesse Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
- Kenny Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
- Dylan Brown (Parramatta Eels)
- James Fisher-Harris (Penrith Panthers)
- Kieran Foran (Manly Sea Eagles)
- Braden Hamlin-Uele (Cronulla Sharks)
- Corey Harawira-Naera (Canberra Raiders)
- Peta Hiku (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Jahrome Hughes (Melbourne Storm)
- Shaun Johnson (New Zealand Warriors)
- Seb Kris (Canberra Raiders)
- Moses Leota (Penrith Panthers)
- Isaac Liu (Gold Coast Titans)
- Joseph Manu (Sydney Roosters)
- Jeremy Marshall-King (Canterbury Bulldogs)
- Te Maire Martin (Brisbane Broncos)
- Ken Maumalo (Wests Tigers)
- Ronaldo Mulitalo (Cronulla Sharks)
- Griffin Neame (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad (Canberra Raiders)
- Briton Nikora (Cronulla Sharks)
- Kodi Nikorima (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
- Marata Niukore (Parramatta Eels)
- Isaiah Papali'i (Parramatta Eels)
- Jordan Rapana (Canberra Raiders)
- Jordan Riki (Brisbane Broncos)
- Bailey Simonsson (Parramatta Eels)
- Brandon Smith (Melbourne Storm)
- Scott Sorensen (Penrith Panthers)
- Joseph Tapine (Canberra Raiders)
- Matthew Timoko (Canberra Raiders)
- Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (Sydney Roosters)
- Dallin Watene-Zelezniak (New Zealand Warriors)
Why not both?Have posted nations that have selected their squads. I have also made a WC Games thread, should these go there not here?
Have posted team squads to date:
NEW ZEALAND
- Nelson Asofa-Solomona (Melbourne Storm)
- Jesse Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
- Kenny Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
- Dylan Brown (Parramatta Eels)
- James Fisher-Harris (Penrith Panthers)
- Kieran Foran (Manly Sea Eagles)
- Braden Hamlin-Uele (Cronulla Sharks)
- Corey Harawira-Naera (Canberra Raiders)
- Peta Hiku (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Jahrome Hughes (Melbourne Storm)
- Shaun Johnson (New Zealand Warriors)
- Seb Kris (Canberra Raiders)
- Moses Leota (Penrith Panthers)
- Isaac Liu (Gold Coast Titans)
- Joseph Manu (Sydney Roosters)
- Jeremy Marshall-King (Canterbury Bulldogs)
- Te Maire Martin (Brisbane Broncos)
- Ken Maumalo (Wests Tigers)
- Ronaldo Mulitalo (Cronulla Sharks)
- Griffin Neame (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad (Canberra Raiders)
- Briton Nikora (Cronulla Sharks)
- Kodi Nikorima (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
- Marata Niukore (Parramatta Eels)
- Isaiah Papali'i (Parramatta Eels)
- Jordan Rapana (Canberra Raiders)
- Jordan Riki (Brisbane Broncos)
- Bailey Simonsson (Parramatta Eels)
- Brandon Smith (Melbourne Storm)
- Scott Sorensen (Penrith Panthers)
- Joseph Tapine (Canberra Raiders)
- Matthew Timoko (Canberra Raiders)
- Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (Sydney Roosters)
- Dallin Watene-Zelezniak (New Zealand Warriors)
Will be hard to beat. Lots of depth as well.Strong squad!
Agree. I guess the best Australian side has some injuries but even so, Kiwis are very competitive.Yes. When you consider the firepower we have lost to the Pacific Island nations they may now be favorites.
..and before I am accused of 'sour grapes' after they win it, from where did almost all of their best players emerge. Here in our own NRL of course.
Personally I think Coats is overrated. In the Melbourne games I saw late in the season, Nofoluma was better than Coats. JAC and To'o will probably be wingers.There is no place for any you have mentioned. We have sufficient half backs it will be Cleary then DCE, if a catastrophe strikes Hunt but Hunt will be starting hooker rotating with Harry Grant Fullback will be Tedesco followed by Mitchell who will originally be selected in the centres with Holmes. 5/8 definitely Munster, followed by Wighton, Id take Burton on the plane. In the pack I feel RCG will be one prop, the other Jake Trbojevic, the Titans prop and cpt, Fa’asuamaleaui has played his way onto the plane so need 1 more prop. On form the backrowers should be Yeo, Murray and Crichton, I'd take Lane and Carrigan on the plane as well. Wingers Addo Carr and probably Coates. So you can't be taking Moses, Hynes or Gutherson too far down the pecking order in my view.
Is Payne Haas unavailable? If so, I guess Papali will be the other prop.There is no place for any you have mentioned. We have sufficient half backs it will be Cleary then DCE, if a catastrophe strikes Hunt but Hunt will be starting hooker rotating with Harry Grant Fullback will be Tedesco followed by Mitchell who will originally be selected in the centres with Holmes. 5/8 definitely Munster, followed by Wighton, Id take Burton on the plane. In the pack I feel RCG will be one prop, the other Jake Trbojevic, the Titans prop and cpt, Fa’asuamaleaui has played his way onto the plane so need 1 more prop. On form the backrowers should be Yeo, Murray and Crichton, I'd take Lane and Carrigan on the plane as well. Wingers Addo Carr and probably Coates. So you can't be taking Moses, Hynes or Gutherson too far down the pecking order in my view.