Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
Treigh Stewart is another strong candidate for a development deal if not top 30.
Top 30 for 2023
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jodragon40
Staff
Unfortunately every single walk of life have bad apples it wasn't easy being a copper in Sydney in the 80s believe me. In regards to the JDB investigation in my personal opinion it was wrong.
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
This bad apple ruined 2 seasons and got only a baking for his trouble.
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
I getting really tired of waiting for the extra 2 spots and extra 2 development spots to be filled. That will leave one spot free for a mid season transfer. Be perfect if Woods or Josh Kerr were to seek life elsewhere before the season starts.
jodragon40
Staff
It's just a further example of where we are as a team and club.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
Maybe Griffin is waiting for a journeyman to be told by his present club that he is 'free to negotiate with other clubs'.
Eric
Staff
St George Illawarra Dragons 2022 RICH 100 REPS: 10
- Ben Hunt: 3rd, $1.1m. (He's been on overs but for the top quality halfback, it's not so much at all. I'd say he's in the top 5 halfbacks. Probably about 5th. Now it looks like Amone is going to be out, I'm glad he has re-signed.)
- Moses Mbye: 14th, $900k. (From my understanding, he's on 300k from the Dragons. Still overs but if it's more than 300k, Griffin should be arrested for gross negligence!)
- Jack de Belin: 32nd, $750k. (I think that's spot on.)
- Zac Lomax: 49th, $700k (Also spot on.)
- Tariq Sims: 64th, $650k (Someone needs to let the DT know he's gone.)
- Jaydn Su’A: 76th, $600k (I think the club is getting a good deal.)
- Jack Bird: 79th, $550k (Not a bad deal. Maybe a little generous based on last year.)
- Moses Suli: 88th, $550k (I think that's just about right as well.)
- Josh McGuire: 99th, $500k (As with Sims.)
- Francis Molo: 101st, $500k (Based on last year, I'd say that is a good deal for him. Actually, a very good deal for him. He was lucky not to be dropped. Would have been if the stock of props at the club wasn't so poor.)
If this is even remotely true, we have to once again revisit the question of where all the salary cap money is going? Keeping in mind the club is required to spend at least 95% of it.
GCRV
SGI NSW Cup
Top 5 halfbacks:
- Cleary
- DCE
- Moses
- Hughes?
- Hunt
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
- Ben Hunt: 3rd, $1.1m. (He stole from the club for the first 3 years of his contract. Not entirely his fault because we all know about the coach at that time.)
- Moses Mbye: 14th, $900k. (This is the joke of the competition. I certainly hope the Dragons aren't paying him more than the reported 300K.)
- Jack de Belin: 32nd, $750k. (If anything, I'd say this is in the clubs favour.)
- Zac Lomax: 49th, $700k (A lot of that based on potential. If he has forwards giving the backs more room to move and good halves putting Zac into half gaps or providing him with overlaps and things like that, it'll be an absolute bargain for the club.)
- Tariq Sims: 64th, $650k (I think he was previously reported to have been on more than that. Water under the bridge now.)
- Jaydn Su’A: 76th, $600k (In the clubs favour but I wouldn't say an absolute bargain.)
- Jack Bird: 79th, $550k (Due to his versatility, I think this is about right. Maybe a little in his favour.)
- Moses Suli: 88th, $550k (Agree, about right. With a fast winger outside him, might be a bargain.)
- Josh McGuire: 99th, $500k (I think NQ were paying a % of that but again, water under the bridge now.)
- Francis Molo: 101st, $500k (Poor recruitment decision. Needs a rocket! Big, mobile, skillful and not hopeless with stamina. Should be much better!)
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
Best 17 for 2023 according to Fox Sport. If this is the case, the wooden spoon is likely.
DRAGONS
- Cody Ramsey
- Mikaele Ravalawa
- Moses Suli
- Zac Lomax
- Mat Feagai
- Junior Amone
- Ben Hunt
- Jack de Belin
- Jacob Liddle
- Blake Lawrie
- Tyrell Fuimaono
- Jaydn Su’A
- Jack Bird
- Jayden Sullivan
- Zane Musgrove
- Francis Molo
- Ben Murdoch-Masila
Analysis:
The Dragons have made a handful of signings to strengthen their forward pack for the 2023 season, but their inclusion could push out some emerging stars. Blake Lawrie and Jack de Belin have the starting prop positions, with Zane Musgrove, Francis Molo and Ben Murdoch-Masila on the bench. That leaves both Jaiyden Hunt and Michael Molo out of the team, although both have showed promise and will be banging on the door for selection. Cody Ramsey was battling a serious illness late last year, but when fit is the club’s best fullback option off his 2022 season. Moses Mbye is the likely man to take his spot should he be unfit, but Tyrell Sloan will be hot on his heels. Meanwhile, Mikaele Ravalawa, Moses Suli, Zac Lomax and Mat Feagai make up the remainder of the backline. Ben Hunt and Junior Amone partner in the halves, however the young half has been charged over an alleged hammer attack which occurred late in 2022. Tyrell Fuimaono and Jaydn Su’A make up the backrow with Jack Bird finding a home at lock after being moved around the team by coach Anthony Griffin last season. Francis Molo is also a strong injection off the bench, but will sit out the start of the 2023 season due to suspension. The former Cowboy will be available from Round 3 onwards. New recruit Jacob Liddle also takes over at dummy-half with Jayden Sullivan playing the utility role after opting to remain with the Red V after handing in a request for an immediate release.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
- Sloan (Ramsey is unavailable for at least the first several weeks if not the entire season according to the information available to me.)
- Lobb (I'm a big fan of Rava but he's just really too slow to be a good winger. I know Lobb is big, fast and highly regarded.)
- Suli
- Lomax
- Mat Feagai
- Sullivan
- Hunt
- Lawrie
- Liddle (Worst #9 in the competition but who else is there at least until round 10 when Muhleisen is available.)
- F. Molo (Hopefully J. Hunt for the first few weeks.)
- Sua
- Couchman (I hope)
- De Belin
- Bird
- Mbye
- Woods
- Murdoch-Masila or Musgrove
Morgan
SGI NSW Cup
Even Fox Sports leave their favourite Woods out of the 17. Interesting.
GCRV
SGI NSW Cup
How about this for an idea if Sullivan doesn't work out at 5/8?
- Sloan (no brainer)
- Lobb (If he's given a top 30 contract.)
- Suli
- Ravalawa
- Mat Feagai
- Lomax
- Hunt
- Lawrie
- Liddle
- F. Molo
- Sua
- Couchman
- De Belin
- Bird
- Mbye
- Woods
- Murdoch-Masila or Musgrove
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
I like it as long as Sully gets first chance.
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
Could work but my old friend Jo Dragon would tell you that without a decent forward pack it's arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. That's a forward pack which at worst includes only 2, or possibly 3 if Liddle isn't a disaster, of Liddle, Musgrove, Murdoch-Masila, Woods, Lui-Toso, Burns, Fuimaono, Kerr. Jury is still out on M. Molo and J. Hunt. All of them except Kerr recruited under Girffin's watch.
Ryan
SGI Jersey Flegg
God that's bad. It took a special amount of incompetence to have all them at the same club at the same time.
Eric
Staff
It's criminal!
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
In a professionally run club, people would be held accountable. But not so at the Dragons of the 2010s~20s.
Chris M
SGI NSW Cup
2 head coaches and a few assistants have been sacked in that time. So some have been held accountable but not enough.
RedV01
SGI NSW Cup
I mean the higher ups. I'm not sure whose job it is but the people who hired those coaches and extended those coaches should have been held accountable.